JH Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Because he's not "rubbish". Being not good enough for the PL and being rubbish are two completely different things. Something which alot on this forum can't seem to get their head around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Good man-management, but he wasn't anywhere near terrific, he was absolutely crud. Tidy, but crud. Players who hide and come up with nice touches every now and then - Guthrie, Lovenkrands, Raylor - get too much credit on here. Unfair on Lovenkrands that imo. Yes, he's shit, but he's not a hider. The other two however, I agree on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Good man-management, but he wasn't anywhere near terrific, he was absolutely crud. Tidy, but crud. Players who hide and come up with nice touches every now and then - Guthrie, Lovenkrands, Raylor - get too much credit on here. I'll take that from our third choice right-mid. You'll take a player who spends most of the game hiding? Ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 He wasn't hiding for one second against Bolton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Good man-management, but he wasn't anywhere near terrific, he was absolutely crud. Tidy, but crud. Players who hide and come up with nice touches every now and then - Guthrie, Lovenkrands, Raylor - get too much credit on here. I'll take that from our third choice right-mid. You'll take a player who spends most of the game hiding? Ok. From the absolute last-resort in that position, i'm not going to expect miracles. Do you expect him to be anywhere near the first team next year? It's so bloody boring. "He's shit, he must go." "He's class, he's bound to go." There's no happy medium; it's time to start thinking more practically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 80% of the squad are happy mediums, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I think you're wrong on this occassion, Ronny. Surely you - who, tbf is a pretty good judge of a player and squad - can see that we need to have a squad. Ryan Taylor is our reserve winger. He was only playing cos Barton and Guthrie are injured and, for some Godforsaken reason, Routledge is out on loan. Like i said before, do you expect him to be anywhere near the starting eleven next season? Of course he won't be. But i'd rather have someone in reserve than no one in reserve. He's not a great player by any stretch of the imagination but i'm happy him filling in when we're down to our absolute bare bones. Sorry to be cliche, but that's just football. He's getting chastisised for a very silly challenge - but is he the first player to make a daft tackle and get sent off? Of course he isn't. Up until then it was a steady performance from our reserve winger, that wasn't any real detriment to our performance. He's not at Smith levels of redundancy. If he's willing to stay and play second fiddle, that's fine with me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I just wish our squad was 'filled' with players with a bit of fight and ability to improve who can come in and do an OK job at the level at which we're playing. There's no reason we can't bring in a Championship winger on half of Raylor's wages, with twice the ability. There's absolutely no reason at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 He got clapped off the f***ing pitch, was embarrassing. People were chanting his name when he went off too. The same lot that booed Robert off, no doubt. ...and gave Gerrard a standing ovation a couple of years ago as he trotted off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I just wish our squad was 'filled' with players with a bit of fight and ability to improve who can come in and do an OK job at the level at which we're playing. There's no reason we can't bring in a Championship winger on half of Raylor's wages, with twice the ability. There's absolutely no reason at all. Adam Hammil for example Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 He got clapped off the f***ing pitch, was embarrassing. People were chanting his name when he went off too. The same lot that booed Robert off, no doubt. ...and gave Gerrard a standing ovation a couple of years ago as he trotted off. To be fair that was the best individual performance I've seen at St. James' along with Scholes' in 02/03. The Real Madrid fans gave Ronaldinho a standing ovation when he tore them apart... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 He got clapped off the f***ing pitch, was embarrassing. People were chanting his name when he went off too. The same lot that booed Robert off, no doubt. ...and gave Gerrard a standing ovation a couple of years ago as he trotted off. To be fair that was the best individual performance I've seen at St. James' along with Scholes' in 02/03. The Real Madrid fans gave Ronaldinho a standing ovation when he tore them apart... With all due respect I don't give a fuck. I just think it's inherently wrong to applaud the cunt off irrespective of how he's played. Lampard getting a round of applause when he went over to take a corner was just as bad. I know it's bitter as fuck too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I just wish our squad was 'filled' with players with a bit of fight and ability to improve who can come in and do an OK job at the level at which we're playing. There's no reason we can't bring in a Championship winger on half of Raylor's wages, with twice the ability. There's absolutely no reason at all. Going by this season if we'd had like for like replacements when injured we'd be knocking around the points chelsea are on, they are a class apart from us but my point stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 He got clapped off the f***ing pitch, was embarrassing. People were chanting his name when he went off too. The same lot that booed Robert off, no doubt. ...and gave Gerrard a standing ovation a couple of years ago as he trotted off. To be fair that was the best individual performance I've seen at St. James' along with Scholes' in 02/03. The Real Madrid fans gave Ronaldinho a standing ovation when he tore them apart... With all due respect I don't give a fuck. I just think it's inherently wrong to applaud the cunt off irrespective of how he's played. Lampard getting a round of applause when he went over to take a corner was just as bad. I know it's bitter as fuck too. I see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I just wish our squad was 'filled' with players with a bit of fight and ability to improve who can come in and do an OK job at the level at which we're playing. There's no reason we can't bring in a Championship winger on half of Raylor's wages, with twice the ability. There's absolutely no reason at all. We had one and let him go, because he wasn't good enough at this level either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I just wish our squad was 'filled' with players with a bit of fight and ability to improve who can come in and do an OK job at the level at which we're playing. There's no reason we can't bring in a Championship winger on half of Raylor's wages, with twice the ability. There's absolutely no reason at all. Going by this season if we'd had like for like replacements when injured we'd be knocking around the points chelsea are on, they are a class apart from us but my point stands. I'm talking about players like Wayne Routledge, not Joey Barton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 I think you're wrong on this occassion, Ronny. Surely you - who, tbf is a pretty good judge of a player and squad - can see that we need to have a squad. Ryan Taylor is our reserve winger. He was only playing cos Barton and Guthrie are injured and, for some Godforsaken reason, Routledge is out on loan. Like i said before, do you expect him to be anywhere near the starting eleven next season? Of course he won't be. But i'd rather have someone in reserve than no one in reserve. He's not a great player by any stretch of the imagination but i'm happy him filling in when we're down to our absolute bare bones. Sorry to be cliche, but that's just football. He's getting chastisised for a very silly challenge - but is he the first player to make a daft tackle and get sent off? Of course he isn't. Up until then it was a steady performance from our reserve winger, that wasn't any real detriment to our performance. He's not at Smith levels of redundancy. If he's willing to stay and play second fiddle, that's fine with me. The one time we needed Ryan Taylor he's got sent off. It would be forgiveable if it was to prevent a goal or even in retaliation...but it was only to cover his own lack of touch and ability. Fuck me, Martins used to get pilloried for his lack of touch yet we sold him for close to £10m and he's come back and won a shit team like Birmingham a cup. It would be funny if it wasn't so predictable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 fuck me, human being in making mistake shocker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 He got clapped off the f***ing pitch, was embarrassing. People were chanting his name when he went off too. The same lot that booed Robert off, no doubt. ...and gave Gerrard a standing ovation a couple of years ago as he trotted off. To be fair that was the best individual performance I've seen at St. James' along with Scholes' in 02/03. The Real Madrid fans gave Ronaldinho a standing ovation when he tore them apart... With all due respect I don't give a fuck. I just think it's inherently wrong to applaud the cunt off irrespective of how he's played. Lampard getting a round of applause when he went over to take a corner was just as bad. I know it's bitter as fuck too. You're not the only one. I couldn't agree more. I'm there to support my team not cheer the wankers who are playing against it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 On the bright side, Wigan haven't beaten us since he left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 He got clapped off the f***ing pitch, was embarrassing. People were chanting his name when he went off too. The same lot that booed Robert off, no doubt. ...and gave Gerrard a standing ovation a couple of years ago as he trotted off. To be fair that was the best individual performance I've seen at St. James' along with Scholes' in 02/03. The Real Madrid fans gave Ronaldinho a standing ovation when he tore them apart... With all due respect I don't give a fuck. I just think it's inherently wrong to applaud the cunt off irrespective of how he's played. Lampard getting a round of applause when he went over to take a corner was just as bad. I know it's bitter as fuck too. You're not the only one. I couldn't agree more. I'm there to support my team not cheer the wankers who are playing against it. Spot On. Only times I've clapped opposition players are Speed and Ferdinand when they returned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 On the bright side, Wigan haven't beaten us since he left Well worth the money just for that tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steggy Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 It was a bit shit losing 1-0 away to Wigan 10 years in a row, every single one of them being due to a Ryan Taylor wonder goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jonny Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 on Soccer AM tomorrow! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethH Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 on Soccer AM tomorrow! I remember him doing 'team mates' last season, no way is Lovenkrands longest in the shower. Especially with lads like Shola and Houghton there at the time. Obviously Tiote now has the crown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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