Guest firetotheworks Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I love Speed, but theres more evidence to suggest he'd be a better fitness coach than a football coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Why does everyone think Speed would be a good coach? He was a model pro and an excellent player but that doesn't necessarily translate. Would smack a little of 'jobs for the boys' too. I'm sick of having this argument He has the ingredients to make a good coach. Just like Shearer has the ingredients to make a good manager. Neither of them are guarenteed to succeed but there are more reasons to think they will than they wont Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Jobs for the boys are a good thing if it's people that we like. However things like 'Geordie boy' Lee Clark and Terry Mac are bad even though we don't actually know what they do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 'Arry brought in a bus load of old boys at Spurs when he got the job and it seemed to work out okay there. I think it's a plus to have people who know the club well and genuinely care about the position it is in, providing of course that they do have some idea about what they are doing. Someone like Speed who was a top pro and a very experienced player surely couldn't do much harm as a coach alongside others. Seems like a good move to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I'd bring in Gary Speed Still baffled by the appointment of Dowie mind. I'm OK with Butt to remain. Speed to coach Butt and or Guthrie on how to be an all round midfielder. I'd like to see him coach either of them how to have new legs. Guthrie's got legs, he just doesn't have any balls. He is one of those who hides in some games for me. He'll have to make an impression next season coz if he can't cut it in the Championship he's a waste of space. I disgaree with all of that. I don't think he has an engine on him as he fades a lot in games, but he always shows and wants the ball. He never gets beyond the forwards though, and if you are playing with a DM like Butt it's important you get into goal scoring positions now and then. It's easy to show for the ball in the centre circle, it takes a bit of drive to get in where it hurts. Maybe that's not his game though? I'd like to see him in the holding role actually. Possibly, although I think there's a question about whether he's a bit lightweight for that role. Did he play there for Bolton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Why does everyone think Speed would be a good coach? He was a model pro and an excellent player but that doesn't necessarily translate. Would smack a little of 'jobs for the boys' too. I'm sick of having this argument He has the ingredients to make a good coach. Just like Shearer has the ingredients to make a good manager. Neither of them are guarenteed to succeed but there are more reasons to think they will than they wont Would it not make more sense to surround an inexperienced manager with more experienced coaches though? Also, why Speed in particular? Why not Solano? Why not David Batty - he was a quality little player and always seemed like a good pro when he was here. I fully understand your argument, but I don't know why there seems to be a common concensus that he would make a good coach ans should definitely come in now. Also agree with Tooj's point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Why does everyone think Speed would be a good coach? He was a model pro and an excellent player but that doesn't necessarily translate. Would smack a little of 'jobs for the boys' too. I'm sick of having this argument He has the ingredients to make a good coach. Just like Shearer has the ingredients to make a good manager. Neither of them are guarenteed to succeed but there are more reasons to think they will than they wont Would it not make more sense to surround an inexperienced manager with more experienced coaches though? Also, why Speed in particular? Why not Solano? Why not David Batty - he was a quality little player and always seemed like a good pro when he was here. I fully understand your argument, but I don't know why there seems to be a common concensus that he would make a good coach ans should definitely come in now. Also agree with Tooj's point. Batty doesnt actually enjoy football that much, football was his trade. Not even kidding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Interesting, didn't know that. I'm sure there are loads of players that could be picked to replace him if I had the energy. My other thought was Acuna but I'm pretty sure I remember him getting done for amphetamines before he joined us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Im definitely part of the get someone experienced in briggade. We cant afford to pick purely on nostalgia, a mix of experience of love for the club is whats needed. My moneys on Carver, and I think it's the right choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Why does everyone think Speed would be a good coach? He was a model pro and an excellent player but that doesn't necessarily translate. Would smack a little of 'jobs for the boys' too. I'm sick of having this argument He has the ingredients to make a good coach. Just like Shearer has the ingredients to make a good manager. Neither of them are guarenteed to succeed but there are more reasons to think they will than they wont Would it not make more sense to surround an inexperienced manager with more experienced coaches though? Also, why Speed in particular? Why not Solano? Why not David Batty - he was a quality little player and always seemed like a good pro when he was here. I fully understand your argument, but I don't know why there seems to be a common concensus that he would make a good coach ans should definitely come in now. Also agree with Tooj's point. Batty doesnt actually enjoy football that much, football was his trade. Not even kidding. Rob Lee might be worth trying. Loves the club, was part of the Keegan Revolution, and is a big mate of Shearers. What do you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarkMag Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Why does everyone think Speed would be a good coach? He was a model pro and an excellent player but that doesn't necessarily translate. Would smack a little of 'jobs for the boys' too. I'm sick of having this argument He has the ingredients to make a good coach. Just like Shearer has the ingredients to make a good manager. Neither of them are guarenteed to succeed but there are more reasons to think they will than they wont Would it not make more sense to surround an inexperienced manager with more experienced coaches though? Also, why Speed in particular? Why not Solano? Why not David Batty - he was a quality little player and always seemed like a good pro when he was here. I fully understand your argument, but I don't know why there seems to be a common concensus that he would make a good coach ans should definitely come in now. Also agree with Tooj's point. Batty doesnt actually enjoy football that much, football was his trade. Not even kidding. Rob Lee might be worth trying. Loves the club, was part of the Keegan Revolution, and is a big mate of Shearers. What do you think? Would love to see Rob Lee back at the toon to be honest! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 im wondering what Alan Shearer knows about managing in the championship? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 im wondering what Alan Shearer knows about managing in the championship? He has Dowie to help him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 im wondering what Alan Shearer knows about managing in the championship? He has Dowie to help him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 What did Keegan know in advance? In my opinion he's the right man, and most crucially, at the right time to unite our club. I'll be pretty devastated, as will our club, if he's not unveiled as our permanent manager in the next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 im wondering what Alan Shearer knows about managing in the championship? He has Dowie to help him Yep that's the fella. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Speed's a proven leader to be honest, I often thought it should be he and not Shearer who captained us full time under Robson as he communicated with the other players a lot more. Remember Speed giving Dyer a good dressing down at Anfield, then scoring the goal which helped us pull back a 2 goal deficit in the 2-2 draw during 02-03 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 A long set of talks as MA has just flown oot of toon. Wonder if its round 2 tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie jamie Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 have they said when shearer will be confirmed as new manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 have they said when shearer will be confirmed as new manager? i think lambias mentioned thursday somewhere for an annoucement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 No doubt it will be for 4 years and 4 years only... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 They need to get this sorted sharpish one way or another. We're allready a few weeks behind all the other championship teams in terms of preperation. Add the fact we need to sell before we buy we could be held to ransom by other teams who aren't in a particular hurry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Shearer and Ashley locked in talks: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/newcastle/5389464/Alan-Shearer-and-Mike-Ashley-locked-in-talks-over-Newcastle-deal.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 It shouldn't be them trying to convince Shearer tbh, he's the one who knows what fucking needs doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Shearer and Ashley locked in talks: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/newcastle/5389464/Alan-Shearer-and-Mike-Ashley-locked-in-talks-over-Newcastle-deal.html "I have no doubt they will be back very quickly indeed." Fair play to Fat Allardyce for that one, was expecting a snide comment on how he'd think we would be the next Leeds or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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