CaliMag Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 We're lucky to have him. He scored in a PL team that didn't ever look like scoring with very little support. The cirticism of him is similar to the criticism of Harper. Totally misguided. Neither are problems, both are good players and unlike many over the years put in the effort consistantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Last season he played half his games on the left wing where he's ineffective. His actual striking record when you look at the games he played up front is very good, it's probably close to 1 in 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Last season he played half his games on the left wing where he's ineffective. His actual striking record when you look at the games he played up front is very good, it's probably close to 1 in 2. Half his games on the left wing? Bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Lovenkrands quicker than Jonas, Routledge and Jose? Absolute nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Jose & Jonas are faster than Lovenkrands- But he is still quick- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 He made 12 appearances for us last season. (these are in the wrong order fwiw) As a left winger Bolton (a) Aston Villa (a) Chelsea (h) Man City (a) - as a sub Fulham (h) - as a sub As a forward West Brom (a) Boro (h) - as a sub Man United (h) Sunderland (h) - as a sub Arsenal (h) Liverpool (a) Everton (h) Last season he played half his games on the left wing where he's ineffective. His actual striking record when you look at the games he played up front is very good, it's probably close to 1 in 2. Half his games on the left wing? Bollocks. Admittedly I was a little bit off, but 5/12 of his appearances were on the left wing - leaving him with 3 in 7 appearances as a striker, which as I said, isn't too far off a goal every two games. It was pretty much half of his games as a winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Lovenkrands is quicker off the mark, Gutierrez and Enrique are faster once they hit top speed IMO. Last season he played half his games on the left wing where he's ineffective. His actual striking record when you look at the games he played up front is very good, it's probably close to 1 in 2. Half his games on the left wing? Bollocks. You realise he means season 2008-2009 don't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Far as I'm concerned the season's not over what with the WC. Sorry for the confusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Aye last season we were in the Championship man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I went to all that trouble as well, nightmare. This season he made maybe 5 or 6 apperances tops on the left flank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Don't understand the criticism of him tbh. There's far worse strikers have scored a few goals in the Premier League. He's quick, good finisher, excellent header of the ball, great crosser, good movement, runs the line well, quality penalty taker. Yes, sometimes he can disappear from games but sometimes that happens to strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Don't understand the criticism of him tbh. There's far worse strikers have scored a few goals in the Premier League. He's quick, good finisher, excellent header of the ball, great crosser, good movement, runs the line well, quality penalty taker. Yes, sometimes he can disappear from games but sometimes that happens to strikers. Should be first choice next season as things stand along with Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby_solano Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Yup, give pete a chance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 There are far more worrying positions than up front. With his pace and Carroll they'll get some goals between them at least, I'm far more worried about us getting steam rollered every single game in the middle of the park. Guthrie can cover for Nolan in the Champ, but Barton/Guthrie vs 2 of any Prem team will kill us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 We're lucky to have him. He scored in a PL team that didn't ever look like scoring with very little support. The cirticism of him is similar to the criticism of Harper. Totally misguided. Neither are problems, both are good players and unlike many over the years put in the effort consistantly. While I'm not sure of Harper, I do agree that the criticism of Lovenkrands is totally misguided. Like you said, he did score in a team with very little support that never looked like scoring. His movement will be invaluable next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I really like Lovenkrands. He's not brilliant but more than capable of doing a job next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Don't understand the criticism of him tbh. There's far worse strikers have scored a few goals in the Premier League. He's quick, good finisher, excellent header of the ball, great crosser, good movement, runs the line well, quality penalty taker. Yes, sometimes he can disappear from games but sometimes that happens to strikers. Some of you must sniff glue, he isn't an excellent header of the ball at all and his finishing somewhat negates his excellent instinct in the box. His overall play doesn't warrant him a place in a team who'll be up against it. That leaves his goalscoring and as i've already mentioned, he struggled to score last season against the better Championship defences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Don't understand the criticism of him tbh. There's far worse strikers have scored a few goals in the Premier League. He's quick, good finisher, excellent header of the ball, great crosser, good movement, runs the line well, quality penalty taker. Yes, sometimes he can disappear from games but sometimes that happens to strikers. Some of you must sniff glue, he isn't an excellent header of the ball at all and his finishing somewhat negates his excellent instinct in the box. His overall play doesn't warrant him a place in a team who'll be up against it. That leaves his goalscoring and as i've already mentioned, he struggled to score last season against the better Championship defences. Bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 What does that make Ferdinand then, Superhuman at heading the ball? Even Carroll, who is miles better at attacking the ball with his head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I think a more appropriate comment would be "good header of the ball for someone of his stature". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I think a more appropriate comment would be "I probably wouldn't go that far". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 More anal than Elton John's love life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Lovenkrands hasn't scored regularly at this level in his entire career, why would he start now? He'll be an absolute passenger in the PL. Rubbish. He hasnt had a fair enough run in the PL for you to make that comment. The last time he played for us in the PL, the club was in a total state of shambles. I doubt even bloody Rooney would have performed for us under those circumstances. And you are one of these people screaming for the club to sign that well known PL greyhound, Kris Boyd? Take a reality check, mate. Our options are limited and if we have to go with what we have, then Lovenkrands will score goals in the PL given good enough service. How many times did Lovenkrands score against teams who finished in the top half last season? He's not PL class, not even close. As for Boyd, there isn't one person on this board "screaming for the club" to sign him, that's all in your head. Most of us just see that on a free, his signing would represent a nowt to lose, everything to gain situation. Lovenkrands isn't slow and immobile. As he can finish quite well in open play that makes him worth twice as much as Kris Boyd IMO, purely as a striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca888 Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 What does that make Ferdinand then, Superhuman at heading the ball? Even Carroll, who is miles better at attacking the ball with his head. Why dont you just admit that you have totally fucked up your assessment of him, just like you have with most things you comment on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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