Skeletor Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Vince McMahon doesn't like that Stan Kroenke bloke at Arsenal so maybe it's him. Vince would fail he bought us though. His business ventures outside of wrestling have been epic fails (Body building, American Football...Even buying WCW even though it's wrestling). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 We still would have finished 4th without doubt had SBR not sold Solano. But the indications were there and when Liverpool offered decent money for Shearer in the summer of 04 we should have accepted (funnily enough it was Shepherd, not Robson who said no) ridiculous that a year later we extended his contract even further, I remember the city absolutely buzzing and me having about 15 arguments with 15 different people that day Yup. These were the only significant mistakes made by Fred. He wasn't prepared to tackle the positions of Robson and Shearer at the right moment. His management choices were the worst. Had Robson left in the summer of 2004 and replaced with a top manager, we would not have been in solid decline ever since. Instead he sacks him early season and then brings in Greame Souness It's my opinion that the bit about summer is irrelevant. Had Robson been replaced by a decent manager at the time he was replaced we'd have been ok. Surely though the problem was that the timing was badly wrong, and there were no decent managers available 4 matches into a season? Maybe at the particular moment in time you are right. However, you appear to be against the idea of appointing a new manager early into the season when in fact Robson himself was appointed very early into a season and went on to do a fabulous job. Who the person is remains the most important part of it imo. After Gullit resigned we were fortunate that SBR was available and willing, and that is the way with unplanned managerial changes - you get a limited choice. We got lucky with SBR being in the market however having to go with Souness who, I'm fairly confident, was not first (or maybe even second) choice shows the risk. No one wants to change manager mid season, by definition it implies something has gone badly wrong. SBR's departure was a mess, it had already been decided by the board before the season started that 2004/2005 was to be his last. The handling of the communication of this was absolutely shocking and badly undermined the manager and the club. The disappointing start to the season was perhaps not so surprising in the circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Considering the number of journalists for the nationals that are going to be out of a job now we've gone down, I wouldn't be surprised if f*** all has happened with the sale and they're all just stringing it out as long as possible. Arabs->Asians->Geordies->Americans... It's blatantly obvious they're just pulling names out of hats. We'll probably have some Eastern European interest before the end of the week and then we'll be back to Arabs by next monday. And after all is said and done, Mike Ashley will still stand prepared to lead us to League One glory on September 1st. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I'm waiting for the Nigerians to come back in for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 If you want to look at the big picture regarding the appointment of Souness I think a number of people should take responsibility for that, even Robson to an extent, he was the manager and unfortunately he lost the respect of the players. Or at least, he seemed to from the outside. The quote in bold is yet another example of HTL's selective memory to suit his own agenda where he fails to remind us that Freddie Shepherd massively undermined SBR when he made it public in the summer of 2004 that 2004/05 would be Bobby's last season as manager at the club, and bearing in mind the "characters" we had at the club at that time the implications of Shepherd's decision were always going to be dyer, sorry dire. Chapter 20 of SBR's autobiography is entitled "Undermined" just to underline the point. IMO this is the most damning single example of Freddie Shepherd's mismanagement of the club, the fact is that we have never recovered from that decision, and is a major reason why I never want Shepherd in a position of authority at the club again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/patrick_barclay/article6498878.ece Time for fans to stop moaning and start Tyneside takeover Newcastle United supporters suffer more than most from the crocodile-tears technique of journalism, which purports to speak for “loyal fans” who “deserve better” than to spend their “hard-earned money” on an underachieving institution. All the journalist has to do is fill in the name of the club and often, down the years (most recently during the regimes of Freddy Shepherd and Mike Ashley), it has been Newcastle. Why? Because Newcastle are a big and significant club with a lot of fans who, congregated in grief, can be photogenic: helpfully garbed in the club’s distinctive stripes, burly, male and incongruously sobbing. The picture with which we are all familiar — and not least since Newcastle’s latest relegation a few weeks ago — can be worth an extra thousand words. And what does the reader get out of it? A comforting sense that they are poor fools, I imagine. A reflection that not since Monty Python and the Holy Grail have so many people been so amusingly misled by the notion of a messiah. But it is all a caricature, of course. Many Newcastle supporters are sensible. They know that there is only one Kevin Keegan, that the extraordinary personal qualities that enabled Keegan, with the support of Sir John Hall, to raise Newcastle into the Premier League in 1993 and produce football of such quality and adventure as to be a factor in the popularity of the League as a whole cannot be assumed to reside in others who have happened also to be inspirational players for the club, even Alan Shearer. These people were not among the 20,000 nitwits who, when Shepherd signed Michael Owen in 2005, packed the Gallowgate End to provide a backdrop for the striker’s first photograph in the black-and-white shirt that he was to wear thereafter with such frustrating (though not surprising) infrequency. The intelligent ones knew a mistake when they saw one and, when Ashley waddled along two years ago and started giving key posts to little-known Londoners (and, even worse, undermining Keegan with Dennis Wise), they were even more embarrassed. If the erstwhile Loadsamoney had offered them a drink, they would have politely declined and moved to another bar. They expected relegation and now, I hope, are ready to seize the opportunity that began to knock when desperation induced Ashley to test Shearer’s messianic properties. Of the eight matches that could have kept Newcastle in the Barclays Premier League, one was won and the inadequacy of this was good news for sensible fans, especially the hundreds whom I mentioned a few weeks ago as having formed an association with the intention of getting involved in the club’s next ownership. Ashley, who once hoped to make a quick profit, has little choice but to watch his losses mount. The latest leaks are that he would accept £100 million for something that has already cost him at least £250 million. Let us assume that the true price is £75 million. This verges on the realistic. If we further assume that there are 100,000 Newcastle supporters in the United Kingdom and as many in the rest of the world, the price works out at £375 a head, or considerably less than the cost of a season ticket, or half a pint of beer a day for a year. All they have to do is stop moaning, get together and do something about the way their club have been run for as long (the Hall era apart) as any of us can remember. The examples of supporter involvement in Spanish clubs such as Barcelona and Athletic Bilbao are there to be followed. If clever, the supporters could get all their money back or even make a profit out of the club (an old Shepherd trick that, on reflection, they may prefer to eschew) because economic conditions will eventually improve and so, if the club are sensitively operated, will Newcastle’s fortunes on the field, attracting overseas or even native investment. So now is the time. The price is right. Let these people google Supporters Direct, an organisation set up for the purpose and already experienced in reviving smaller clubs, and get on with it. Let them put their “hard-earned money” where their mouth is. Otherwise, though unquestionably “loyal fans”, they will not “deserve better”. he makes it sound so easy..... Small point, it was the Leazes end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dazzanufc1892 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 i love the fact that the article talks about the michael owen brochure. You know its bad when you have to make your own glossy 32 page promotion to try and get yourself a new employer. Im imagining it a bit like an RSPCA booklet, on why you should own such a pet due to its brilliant yet traumatic background.....please, for just £102,000 pw, you could make this little fella happy again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Surely this brochure thing is bullshit, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Anyone want to have a guess at the next country to be linked with a takeover. I'll go for Russian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Anyone want to have a guess at the next country to be linked with a takeover. I'll go for Russian. I'll go with someone rich from India. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Just seen a Cadillac and two blokes in suits and cowboy hats in it at SJP, the car was spewing oil.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest getalife Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 A reflection that not since Monty Python and the Holy Grail have so many people been so amusingly misled by the notion of a messiah. Surely they mean the other one.............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Just seen a Cadillac and two blokes in suits and cowboy hats in it at SJP, the car was spewing oil.. Was it white and did it have horns attached to the bonnet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss196/mmurphy6_photo/bald_eagle_head_MG0501.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Just seen a Cadillac and two blokes in suits and cowboy hats in it at SJP, the car was spewing oil.. Was it white and did it have horns attached to the bonnet? http://trinities.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/boss_hogg.jpg Howdy I payed just an itty bitty fee for yer clurb, Now tell me weeyer the dukes iyes. Oh you mean the fat aussie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Just seen a Cadillac and two blokes in suits and cowboy hats in it at SJP, the car was spewing oil.. Was it white and did it have horns attached to the bonnet? http://trinities.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/boss_hogg.jpg Howdy I payed just an itty bitty fee for yer clurb, Now tell me weeyer the dukes iyes. Oh you mean the fat aussie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 this is boring Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Vince McMahon doesn't like that Stan Kroenke bloke at Arsenal so maybe it's him. Could you imagine if it was Vince, it will start with Mike Ashley presenting Joe Kinnear as new manager all of a sudden bang Shearer hits an RKO on Kinnear, Vince slaps Ashley across the face whislt shouting out "youre fired", as Ashley is on the floor Dowie punts him to the head. Then Shearer slurps and tips a load of bud over himself..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Anyone want to have a guess at the next country to be linked with a takeover. I'll go for Russian. Algerian consortium of billionaires. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 some eskimos from Greenland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublecrown Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Or these guys: http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1420/enos.th.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Vince McMahon doesn't like that Stan Kroenke bloke at Arsenal so maybe it's him. Could you imagine if it was Vince, it will start with Mike Ashley presenting Joe Kinnear as new manager all of a sudden bang Shearer hits an RKO on Kinnear, Vince slaps Ashley across the face whislt shouting out "youre fired", as Ashley is on the floor Dowie punts him to the head. Then Shearer slurps and tips a load of bud over himself..... I'd vouch for a Derek Llambias heel turn. Turns on Ashley, hits him with a steel chair, raises Shearers arm, and credits start to roll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Vince McMahon doesn't like that Stan Kroenke bloke at Arsenal so maybe it's him. Could you imagine if it was Vince, it will start with Mike Ashley presenting Joe Kinnear as new manager all of a sudden bang Shearer hits an RKO on Kinnear, Vince slaps Ashley across the face whislt shouting out "youre fired", as Ashley is on the floor Dowie punts him to the head. Then Shearer slurps and tips a load of bud over himself..... I'd vouch for a Derek Llambias heel turn. Turns on Ashley, hits him with a steel chair, raises Shearers arm, and credits start to roll. wouldn't that be a face turn? Everybody already hates the cunt lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Vince McMahon doesn't like that Stan Kroenke bloke at Arsenal so maybe it's him. Could you imagine if it was Vince, it will start with Mike Ashley presenting Joe Kinnear as new manager all of a sudden bang Shearer hits an RKO on Kinnear, Vince slaps Ashley across the face whislt shouting out "youre fired", as Ashley is on the floor Dowie punts him to the head. Then Shearer slurps and tips a load of bud over himself..... I'd vouch for a Derek Llambias heel turn. Turns on Ashley, hits him with a steel chair, raises Shearers arm, and credits start to roll. wouldn't that be a face turn? Everybody already hates the cunt lol. Shit yeah, a heel turn from Ashleys point of view though. Face turn it is. Ashleys blades himself for cheap pops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 In case anyone missed it from the other thread: http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2009/06/16/shearer-s-waiting-game-almost-over-61634-23884719/ United’s managing director Derek Llambias was back in Newcastle yesterday to prepare for the final days of the Ashley regime on Tyneside, and he is hopeful a significant announcement is not far away. “There could be some movement regarding Alan Shearer at the end of this week or early next week,” said Llambias, who has been in regular contact with Seymour Pierce, the bank in charge of finding a buyer. “The data room will be open on Wednesday, which will allow the groups who have proved they have the money to buy the club to look at the books. Nobody has been able to do that yet because the data room hasn’t been opened. “We will not be making any decision on Alan as manager, that is not up to us, that is down to the groups who are buying the club. If they want to appoint him, then it’s up to them. We will speak to them about it. If they do want Alan then something could be done in the next few days. That’s where we are at this stage and everything is on going.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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