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I think they leave one of the keeper spots, for a young keeper to gain experiance.

 

As long as Forster stays north of the border he will struggle to make the England squad. Maybe that's why he is stalling over staying at Celtic.

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Very serious questions need to be asked about why England have got such a small pool of players who are capable of being called up to the squad. There's some deeply embarrassing names in there when you consider the PL is claimed to be the best in the world and England in general is supposed to be a footballing superpower.

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different manager same poor selections from the usual teams they come from, the national team needs a big shake up its pathetic really lost interest in England ages ago its just boring now

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Very serious questions need to be asked about why England have got such a small pool of players who are capable of being called up to the squad. There's some deeply embarrassing names in there when you consider the PL is claimed to be the best in the world and England in general is supposed to be a footballing superpower.

 

no-one wants to know, the PL's interest is making money for itself as is the clubs involved in it....only thing that will ever change our game is the money drying up

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Very serious questions need to be asked about why England have got such a small pool of players who are capable of being called up to the squad. There's some deeply embarrassing names in there when you consider the PL is claimed to be the best in the world and England in general is supposed to be a footballing superpower.

 

no-one wants to know, the PL's interest is making money for itself as is the clubs involved in it....only thing that will ever change our game is the money drying up

 

Yet none of the clubs in it actually make any money

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different manager same poor selections from the usual teams they come from, the national team needs a big shake up its pathetic really lost interest in England ages ago its just boring now

 

Who would you call up who hasn't been though?

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England's third choice keeper: Jack Butland. Spain's third choice keeper: Pepe Reina. Netherlands' third choice keeper: Tim Krul.

 

Probably works even better with the second choices. 1 injury to Hart and it's all over.

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Very serious questions need to be asked about why England have got such a small pool of players who are capable of being called up to the squad. There's some deeply embarrassing names in there when you consider the PL is claimed to be the best in the world and England in general is supposed to be a footballing superpower.

 

no-one wants to know, the PL's interest is making money for itself as is the clubs involved in it....only thing that will ever change our game is the money drying up

 

Yet none of the clubs in it actually make any money

 

pretty sure individuals (players, managers, directors, chairmen etc.) all do pretty well out of it

 

i see your point though, many clubs have to over-extend to even stay in the league but the alternative is to be someone like middlesbrough, put everything into your youth setup and hope it keeps you afloat

 

it doesn't

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So sad for Ruddy, he really seemed to looking forward to it :( I also though he would be a great second goalie (even if he problebly would have been third choice...). And England has always been dependent to Hart.

 

But what the hell Roy. What about Frasier?!

 

Buggs me that Krul is only number third in Holland.

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Our second choice is Rob Green. Robert fucking Green. Spain's fourth choice is David de Gea. We're so shit man. :lol:

 

Because of 2nd and 4th choice goalkeepers that almost certainly won't be used anyway during the tournament?

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Our second choice is Rob Green. Robert f***ing Green. Spain's fourth choice is David de Gea. We're so s*** man. :lol:

 

Although your right.... Spain's collection of goalkeepers is truly insane they make most teams GK depth look shit.

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Our second choice is Rob Green. Robert fucking Green. Spain's fourth choice is David de Gea. We're so shit man. :lol:

 

Because of 2nd and 4th choice goalkeepers that almost certainly won't be used anyway during the tournament?

 

Does depth not matter like? If Hart gets injured, we have to pick Rob Green or a 'keeper whose been playing in League 2 this season. If Casillas picks up an injury, they have the choice of three others who aren't a great deal worse than he is.

 

Could be done for pretty much any position. Rooney's out for the first two, we have to go with Carroll or Welbeck. Villa is out for Spain, they now have the choice of Torres, Soldado and Llorente. That's before even getting to the likes of Negredo.

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Our second choice is Rob Green. Robert fucking Green. Spain's fourth choice is David de Gea. We're so shit man. :lol:

 

Because of 2nd and 4th choice goalkeepers that almost certainly won't be used anyway during the tournament?

 

Does depth not matter like? If Hart gets injured, we have to pick Rob Green or a 'keeper whose been playing in League 2 this season. If Casillas picks up an injury, they have the choice of three others who aren't a great deal worse than he is.

 

Could be done for pretty much any position. Rooney's out for the first two, we have to go with Carroll or Welbeck. Villa is out for Spain, they now have the choice of Torres, Soldado and Llorente. That's before even getting to the likes of Negredo.

 

Of course the squad depth does matter.

 

But it's not that often the case that goalkeepers get injured on major tournaments.

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different manager same poor selections from the usual teams they come from, the national team needs a big shake up its pathetic really lost interest in England ages ago its just boring now

 

Who would you call up who hasn't been though?

 

I think the same as FilFlop really, but then I always end up with this conclusion too.

 

I would make a few different selections (Johnson, Carrick, Richards) but that's more detail than wholesale philosophy.

 

Gutted that Wilshere isn't available.

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Quite looking forward to tomorrow's game. Will be interesting/intriguing to see how Roy lines them up - as long as we've worked on how to keep the ball effectively, I shall be content.

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