matta Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 5 - No player assisted more goals (5) or created more goalscoring chances (41) from set pieces in the PL in 2010/11 than Joey Barton. Bibs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 How many right midfielders are there that we could get who have Barton's vision, passing, crossing and can influence a game the way he can? congratulations on having this tweeted word for word by United for Newcastle. Eh? taking what you said and passing it off as their own. Ah right. What's their twitter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I'm sorry Barton but is a much better player than Larsson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I don't want him to go by any means, but he's a half-winger, half-cm with an attitude problem who is attempting to milk a club who stood by him whilst he sat in a jail cell... forgive me if I think we can survive without that at the club. Personally, I'd prefer an out-an-out winger on both flanks, therefore Joey is replaceable in the team that I'd craft. Guess it depends what Pardy Parderson's vision for our starting XI is. Well said and agree 100%. Too many on here in total panic and thinking we are totally dependent on 1 player ffs. Or, with one of are top players seemingly leaving already, people are worried that rather than using the Carroll money to improve, we'll be using it to replace those that leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 At the end of the day, we can only speculate as we don't know the actual details of what Barton is demanding, and what the club are willing to offer him. So we can't really lay any blame towards anybody until we actually know what's been going on. I wouldn't be surprised if his agent is doing this to try and force the club's hand. Although I do expect to see something in the press from Llambias the mysterious club insider in the next few days, saying Barton has made obscene demands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Depends who replaces the 3 players though Ronny. Spurs sold Carrick, Keane and Berbatov in a year they were fine, Man U sold Ronaldo and lost Tevez, they were fine, Liverpool have sold 3 of their best 5 players in 18 months...jury's still out but they're getting there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Depends who replaces the 3 players though Ronny. Spurs sold Carrick, Keane and Berbatov in a year they were fine, Man U sold Ronaldo and lost Tevez, they were fine, Liverpool have sold 3 of their best 5 players in 18 months...jury's still out but they're getting there. Aye, they had decent squads though. Unfortunately, ours is shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Still think there's a long way to go regarding this. Although I would be disappointed if he left it wouldn't be the end of the world, as long as we don't replace him with the likes of Larsson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Must say, it doesn't send the best message if we lose 3 out of our 5 best players in the space of 6 months. Of those 5 only 2 are players that are really top drawer though. What matters is whether they are replaced with as good or better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 At the end of the day, we can only speculate as we don't know the actual details of what Barton is demanding, and what the club are willing to offer him. So we can't really lay any blame towards anybody until we actually know what's been going on. I wouldn't be surprised if his agent is doing this to try and force the club's hand. Interested to hear what Pardew says. Wouldn't believe a word that snake Mckay has to say given the noises that have come out of the club about keeping Joey I doubt we just upped and left the table without a reason. I like that we are not willing to be held for ransom by players demands, we certainly would have crumbled in the past. Will certainly be a big punch in the ribs to see Joey go especially after how well he has played this season, his vision and passing is genuinely stunning on his day. The club certainly owe him nothing though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I'd still prefer a proper pacey RW longterm anycase, would add some much needed balance to the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 At the end of the day, we can only speculate as we don't know the actual details of what Barton is demanding, and what the club are willing to offer him. So we can't really lay any blame towards anybody until we actually know what's been going on. I wouldn't be surprised if his agent is doing this to try and force the club's hand. Although I do expect to see something in the press from Llambias the mysterious club insider in the next few days, saying Barton has made obscene demands. On that last point, I expect you're right but it's already started - journalists already tweeting 'a source' who says he's turning down a very lucrative deal... the implication being it's not enough for richie rich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Standard agent games imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wally_McFool Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Cant see why people are moaning. If Joey goes, it will give Alan Smith an excellent chance to cement a regular first team spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Cant see why people are moaning. If Joey goes, it will give Alan Smith an excellent chance to cement a regular first team spot. Or we could just stick him in cement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I don't want Barton playing RW, he's got no pace and will hold us back. But I'd love him to stay and play CM for the next 3-4 years. Gutted it looks like it's not to be. No idea who to blame, but it sends out a horrible message if the club have simpy said "No new deal" as the detestable Willie McKay seems to be saying. If Barton's not even being offered a new deal, then what ambition are we showing? He's blatantly been one of our best players. What are Enrique and Tiote and indeed anyone else we're likely to try and attract to the club going to think if we are seen to not even want to tie Barton down to a new contract? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Loven11 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 How many right midfielders are there that we could get who have Barton's vision, passing, crossing and can influence a game the way he can? congratulations on having this tweeted word for word by United for Newcastle. Eh? taking what you said and passing it off as their own. Ah right. What's their twitter? http://twitter.com/#!/UtdForNewcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I don't want Barton playing RW, he's got no pace and will hold us back. But I'd love him to stay and play CM for the next 3-4 years. Gutted it looks like it's not to be. No idea who to blame, but it sends out a horrible message if the club have simpy said "No new deal" as the detestable Willie McKay seems to be saying. If Barton's not even being offered a new deal, then what ambition are we showing? He's blatantly been one of our best players. What are Enrique and Tiote and indeed anyone else we're likely to try and attract to the club going to think if we are seen to not even want to tie Barton down to a new contract? Won't affect enrique's situation those two are always squabbling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I don't want Barton playing RW, he's got no pace and will hold us back. But I'd love him to stay and play CM for the next 3-4 years. Gutted it looks like it's not to be. No idea who to blame, but it sends out a horrible message if the club have simpy said "No new deal" as the detestable Willie McKay seems to be saying. If Barton's not even being offered a new deal, then what ambition are we showing? He's blatantly been one of our best players. What are Enrique and Tiote and indeed anyone else we're likely to try and attract to the club going to think if we are seen to not even want to tie Barton down to a new contract? I think Barton himself said at a talk-in that he had been offered a new deal but the terms weren't very good. As you say, it's hard to tell what's been going on from either the club or Joey's point of view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I don't want Barton playing RW, he's got no pace and will hold us back. But I'd love him to stay and play CM for the next 3-4 years. Gutted it looks like it's not to be. No idea who to blame, but it sends out a horrible message if the club have simpy said "No new deal" as the detestable Willie McKay seems to be saying. If Barton's not even being offered a new deal, then what ambition are we showing? He's blatantly been one of our best players. What are Enrique and Tiote and indeed anyone else we're likely to try and attract to the club going to think if we are seen to not even want to tie Barton down to a new contract? No one believes the club did not offer a new deal. It is just the details. Two years? Three years? Half pay cut? anyway, same as saylor case, I am supporting the club as I really don't like being held ransom by the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrenchWilliam Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Cue the ubiquitous 'club source' Tomorrow's news: "A source inside the club has told us Barton was holding out for XXXk per week, and the club have walked away, refusing to be held to ransom" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I think Joey needs the reassurance of Kevin Nolan at the club. That he looks to him as a support in his personal life as well as on the pitch. I've got no problem with giving them both new contracts The club has to be aware of a player's personal issues, but to offer his mentor a playing contract with that in mind, is going too far. Those two are starting to talk like they're the sole guardians of team spirit. Joey in particular always seems to get a round of applause when he starts telling the owner what he should be doing, and criticizing other players, but for me, he's getting too big for his boots. He should stop trying to run the club and concentrate on continuing to sort out his own contribution. Some of the sounds coming from these two reek of "player power" and I fear that it could eventually become a problem. I get a sneaking feeling that the club may just decide to ship both of them out, disband "this group of lads," and try to just build a team from scratch if contract negotiations start to stall. Think this will actually happen now. Barton (and possibly Nolan with him) has overplayed his hand and Mike Ashley isn't having any of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Standard agent games imo. This. It's a load of shite. Anyone who's ever bought a car knows what's going on here. The guy wants ten grand you offer him nine, he tells you to fuck off so you say ok. Yous both stand staring at your shoes for ten minutes and agree nine and a half is about right. Joey will sign a new deal next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Didnt we have these sort of games with S Taylor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 If himself and Jose go, is that the club finally rid of everything to do with Fat Sam? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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