Thespence Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 So if WHAM get £8M for Parker what's the maximum people think they'll put up for Barton? About £3million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 £9m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Remember people on here telling me what a great deal £6m was for N'Zogbia. He's the only thing keeping Wigan afloat. Yeah, but he was miserable here and wouldn't have done us any good. Certainly would have left after getting relegated. knobhead Kinnear didn't really help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridman Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 So if WHAM get £8M for Parker what's the maximum people think they'll put up for Barton? Well we sold them Dyer for 6m, so I'm guessing 40-50m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Surely over the last few weeks the difference between Barton being in the team and Barton being out of the team has been highlighted, underlined and categorically circled in thick red ink? In short, that difference could potentially be the difference between leagues. If that's only worth £2-3 million then maybe relegation won't be so bad after all. I'd rather risk Barton's contract running out and lose him for free in 18 months than lose him now when we need his type of player desperately. This is my view basically. Barton might not be effective every game but the ones in which he is will probably keep us up. If he goes, Danny Gutless will be raising the white flag to every midfielder in the division, that much must be pretty obvious by now. Let Barton play out his contract, those 18 months will be crucial in keeping us up. My worry is whether he'll be able to stomach Pardew as manager. That might force issues somewhat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I suspect there will be a turnover of players in Jan, so some will come in if we sell. I won't be surprised if this is part of the reason they've brought Pardew in at this stage of the season, as they are hoping some new players will help to calm things down after what has been an unpopular appointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Barton is a very good player but he is high maintenance. If his heart is in it and he feels needed he is a serious asset, and that was the case under Hughton where he has become an indispensible part of our midfield. But if he doesn't fancy the new managemement or vice versa he'll be a complete pain in the ar5e. Could we even find a buyer that would pick up his wages? Unlikely imo - and what we would do to replace a player of that quality is another story. Unless the club can pull of a serious scouting coup and land the creative equivalent of Tiote for about £3m Pardew needs to make friends with Barton and also to tell Ashley and Llambias to live with the cost of keeping him on the books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I suspect there will be a turnover of players in Jan, so some will come in if we sell. I won't be surprised if this is part of the reason they've brought Pardew in at this stage of the season, as they are hoping some new players will help to calm things down after what has been an unpopular appointment. If Hughton hadn't been sacked, then an 'unpopular appointment' wouldn't have been needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Scott Parker is on big money at West Ham - think he is their highest earner - so if they sell him, they could afford Barton's wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I think you will find Gold and Sullivan won't be looking to replace Parker with someone on the same sort of wages, they are on the same trip as Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 May as well. Canny on his day doesn't have a enough of them days that is why it is WHU after rather than a top team. Him, S.Taylor & if at all possible Smith off the books would be good Jan clear out. Of course who we get in would be the intriguing part. Well we wouldn't get in anybody of Barton's quality, for a start. I reckon we could find a midfielder who scores more goals than Joseph Rubbish, regardless of goals scored best midfielder at the club by miles and without him we are surely fucked! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 May as well. Canny on his day doesn't have a enough of them days that is why it is WHU after rather than a top team. Him, S.Taylor & if at all possible Smith off the books would be good Jan clear out. Of course who we get in would be the intriguing part. Well we wouldn't get in anybody of Barton's quality, for a start. I reckon we could find a midfielder who scores more goals than Joseph Rubbish, regardless of goals scored best midfielder at the club by miles and without him we are surely fucked! He's definitely in that core group of "must start" for me, don't know about 'by miles' but agree with the fucked sentiment. Sounds funny but I don't think he'll go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 If we brought in someone like O'Hara as a replacement then great, let him go, if we brought someone in who isn't good enough then it would be a pretty bad deal letting him go in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Brought in? Does not compute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 O'Hara is a completely different type of player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 I don't - and didn't in the above post - blame Joey Barton for one nanosecond for getting as much as he can out of it. I'd be filling my boots as well if i could. I do blame professional football in this country for being sufficiently dimwitted and out of touch with reality to pay such mediocre players such absurd sums of money, whilst we, the paying punters, fork out through the nose on season tickets, sky subscriptions etc etc to fund it all. The game in this country is heading for a very, very rude awakening. I have to say I disagree that pro football deserves the blame you're saying that it does there, the paying punters have to take the responsibility. I'm not saying this just because of me supporting people withholding funds from Ashley, it's just always been my view. Overall, football doesn't have a false economy - it works. It's just a fragile one because it relies on punters paying up far larger sums than they ever have in the past for it and far more than other parts of the first world do. When we each pay £600 a year for some satellite tv channels and a similar number on tickets, we write a very large cheque to the people we give it to and they get to do what they like with it. So their reality is that they have got loads of money to spaff, and the rewards are there to make it maybe worth gambling large sums on players who are hopefully just that little bit better than their mediocre opposition. It's why wage cap discussions are always arse about face - poorer footballers will just mean richer chairmen. The real change people want requires something else - and it starts with those same people at the root of this economy changing their habits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 If James Milner is worth 24 mill then I'd want at least 10 mill for Barton,knock half off for past misdemeanours and length of contract-take 5-6 mill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 If James Milner is worth 24 mill then I'd want at least 10 mill for Barton,knock half off for past misdemeanours and length of contract-take 5-6 mill. James Milner isn't and has never been worth £24 million, unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Willie McKay is odious scum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 May as well. Canny on his day doesn't have a enough of them days that is why it is WHU after rather than a top team. Him, S.Taylor & if at all possible Smith off the books would be good Jan clear out. Of course who we get in would be the intriguing part. Well we wouldn't get in anybody of Barton's quality, for a start. I reckon we could find a midfielder who scores more goals than Joseph Rubbish, regardless of goals scored best midfielder at the club by miles and without him we are surely f***ed! Barton is a improvement on Lil Wayne out wide. Andy Carroll is miles better than any of our other strikers, Barton is not miles better than any of the other regular midfielders, hence why it is WHU & not Man Utd chasing him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TrueToon Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Who clicked "get rid"? who do you want manning the midfield for the rest of the season? Guthrie? Fuck sake, Barton has been brilliant for us.... baffling! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Eventually - when it suits NUFC - Barton needs to be on his way. He will always be a liability as he demonstrated against Blackburn, even though he has had innumerable chances to sort himself out since he came to the club and arguably, his enforced absence was one of the factors in Hughton being sacked after the results at Bolton and WBA. A decent player, yes, but not irreplaceable given time.... As I said, when it suits NUFC, he should go, but not before. If we ever needed a dressing room without controversy, its now - and a full strength side to boot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TrueToon Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Eventually - when it suits NUFC - Barton needs to be on his way. He will always be a liability as he demonstrated against Blackburn, even though he has had innumerable chances to sort himself out since he came to the club and arguably, his enforced absence was one of the factors in Hughton being sacked after the results at Bolton and WBA. A decent player, yes, but not irreplaceable given time.... As I said, when it suits NUFC, he should go, but not before. If we ever needed a dressing room without controversy, its now - and a full strength side to boot. Yeah 100% agree but not now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Eventually - when it suits NUFC - Barton needs to be on his way. He will always be a liability as he demonstrated against Blackburn, even though he has had innumerable chances to sort himself out since he came to the club and arguably, his enforced absence was one of the factors in Hughton being sacked after the results at Bolton and WBA. A decent player, yes, but not irreplaceable given time.... As I said, when it suits NUFC, he should go, but not before. If we ever needed a dressing room without controversy, its now - and a full strength side to boot. Yeah 100% agree but not now Yeah. His continued fitness and presence in the first team is likely to make the difference between going down and staying up IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 We could probably do without him in our squad if we sign a decent right winger mind. merlin is spot on, he has to be sold at some point... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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