Ketsbaia Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 How long until Barton's back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Doesn't fit in with the sort of midfield players Hughton likes, Smith, Butt, Nolan, Geremi. What you say would perhaps make sense if Hughton had signed any of them, he didn't. Given the situation we are in he can only really work with what we've got. It's his preference for some of them ahead of others in our squad who are more attacking minded I'm getting at. He's far too negative & I'd be surprised if he went for a player like that & then played them consistently. Hope I'm wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Doesn't fit in with the sort of midfield players Hughton likes, Smith, Butt, Nolan, Geremi. What you say would perhaps make sense if Hughton had signed any of them, he didn't. Given the situation we are in he can only really work with what we've got. It's his preference for some of them ahead of others in our squad who are more attacking minded I'm getting at. He's far too negative & I'd be surprised if he went for a player like that & then played them consistently. Hope I'm wrong. Well he hasn't preferred Geremi over anyone, we haven't seen him for weeks but yes I would like to see Guthrie in central midfield but other than him we don't really have any other options other than Smith, Nolan and Butt with Barton being injured. If everyone was fit I would like to see us play with a central midfield of Guthrie and Barton, they would piss this league but I doubt we'll ever see that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Doesn't fit in with the sort of midfield players Hughton likes, Smith, Butt, Nolan, Geremi. What you say would perhaps make sense if Hughton had signed any of them, he didn't. Given the situation we are in he can only really work with what we've got. It's his preference for some of them ahead of others in our squad who are more attacking minded I'm getting at. He's far too negative & I'd be surprised if he went for a player like that & then played them consistently. Hope I'm wrong. to be fair and play a bit devils avacado, hughton hasn't really had a chance to put out a team of his liking as he's really had to get on with what he had. only guthrie could be classed as a box to boxer or someone of more attacking intent and he hasn't covered himself in glory when playing anywhere apart from against leicester. smith to many does the holding role and nolan has been scoring so in many ways i can understand why hughton does that. mind you i can't agree with playing butt and smith together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Hughton just goes with what he knows. If he's played a certain side and theyve got results he keeps it like that, its usually only when it goes wrong does he change it. The issue being that most formations would have us winning games in this league, but doesnt mean theyre the most efficient formations we have. He wont change the likes of Smith/Butt/Nolan in the centre because of that though. Only if two of them got injured or put in awful performances would Guthrie even get a look in in the middle. Was the same case with Lovenkrands upfront. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Hughton just goes with what he knows. If he's played a certain side and theyve got results he keeps it like that. His selection at Barnsley after winning at Coventry suggests otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Yeah that was a strange one. Hes given the explanation that he was just resting players for the christmas period though so not a normal situation. He probably is more comfortable going back to formations that have been tried and been successful to, he's just not likely to try something new unless needed. Guthrie played over all this lot in the centre of mid last season at a much higher standard & he still hasnt given him a look in, he just sticks with whats been successful so far this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Can't say I agree with a lot of Hugton's team selections but while he's getting results it's hard to argue. I can only assume that his decision to play two holding midfielders in the last two games is to accomodate two wingers, although for me Guthrie should have enough bite in his game to be up to the task by now. Pretty poor show if he can't get in ahead of a creaking geriatric like Butt in this division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Can't say I agree with a lot of Hugton's team selections but while he's getting results it's hard to argue. I can only assume that his decision to play two holding midfielders in the last two games is to accomodate two wingers, although for me Guthrie should have enough bite in his game to be up to the task by now. Pretty poor show if he can't get in ahead of a creaking geriatric like Butt in this division. Not an unfair result by all accounts against Barnsley but I believe we're gradually winning in spite of squad selection than because of it. Guthrie may be doubtful to a lot of people bt he must offer moe than Butt surely. Although they are paying off somehow, I just don't have faith in the long term benefits of CH's tactics. Not seen much of this Wilshire lad, is he the nads like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Would like to see it happen. Would prefer getting our own in for a fee like but there's no real chance of that happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Not seen much of this Wilshire lad, is he the nads like? Very skilful. One of those players that seems to glide past defenders. All he needs is experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Not seen much of this Wilshire lad, is he the nads like? Could be the next Aaron Ramsey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Could be the final piece in the jigsaw, undoubted promotion with him in the team, he's that good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Not seen much of this Wilshire lad, is he the nads like? Could be the next Aaron Ramsey I would take that. Ramsey is and has been amazing this season, he will undoubtedly replace Fabregas in a year or two! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Not seen much of this Wilshire lad, is he the nads like? Could be the next Aaron Ramsey I would take that. Ramsey is and has been amazing this season, he will undoubtedly replace Fabregas in a year or two! I read old man Cesc is already worried about his place in a few seasons time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blackbelts Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 lad at work is going out with wilsheres cousin, i'll see if I can get any top secret info on the matter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny_sniper Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Guiseppe Rossi? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 lad at work is going out with wilsheres cousin, i'll see if I can get any top secret info on the matter My cousin was going out with Wilshire, small world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blackbelts Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 lad at work is going out with wilsheres cousin, i'll see if I can get any top secret info on the matter My cousin was going out with Wilshire, small world oh the coincidence of it all! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 the worry about him is while he has the skill does he have the physical stature to cope with the championship yet if he did come, would love him here though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 More loans? What's going to happen come the summer if we get promoted? I really can't see us buying all the loanees and if we don't the squad will be alarmingly short in numbers. Having a team with 3 or 4 loans gives an inaccurate picture of the squads long term size and strength. It's very much a short sighted approach more focussed on papering over cracks than really building a team and squad capable of not only getting promoted but staying there. Loan players are exactly what we need now. Players who are good enough for this league that we won't be stuck with next year. If we want players good enough to keep us in the Premiership then we should be signing then from a position of strength in the Premiership. Those kind of players either won't sign for you in the Championship or want even more cash then normal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Shocking how standards have fallen since the departure of the previous (shit) Board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Shocking how standards have fallen since the departure of the previous (s***) Board. Is Wilshere that far of a drop off of Rossi on loan? We might actually use him as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Wilshere playing a bit part role in our hoofball..not gonna be what Wenger wants for the lad I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Not seen much of this Wilshire lad, is he the nads like? Could be the next Aaron Ramsey I would take that. Ramsey is and has been amazing this season, he will undoubtedly replace Fabregas in a year or two! I read old man Cesc is already worried about his place in a few seasons time. Sounds impressive. I just would like to see ANY attacking minded players in centre mid ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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