Geordie Ahmed Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I find it incomprehensible that Shearer can be considered anything other than a legend, absolutely baffling Is Keegan overall ahead of Shearer? Absolutely but there isn't a rule that states you can only have one legend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) I think it's fair enough that there's differing degrees of Legend for Shearer and KK to both fall within it, especially when this is getting discussed by people who grew up at different times with different heroes. Did someone say Nolan is an icon, though? I feel like cult hero more than suffices there. Edited December 7, 2021 by wormy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Shearer is our greatest ever and one of the all time English greats. Record speaks for itself. His commitment to us speaks for itself. He’s completely entitled to his own opinion on who and how he associates with people we as a fan base may not like. He’s raised his family to be Toon mad, he has his box, he speaks mostly sense about us now that he’s not conflicted with his mate as manager… To split hairs on this that or the other is mad to me. Legend for me. If it wasn’t for him I’d have never been hooked and fallen in love with this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krybel Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Legend of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Is there a capacity limit to how many legends a club can have before the term becomes devalued; how many do we actually have? Gallagher, Milburn, Harvey, Keegan, Shearer... is there anyone else who deserve that highest of statuses? What's the hierarchy of terms? Legend, icon, idol, hero, cult hero, fan favourite... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krybel Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) @YorkieAsk Birmingham who retired Bellinghams shirt when he left for Dortmund at 17 Edited December 7, 2021 by krybel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: I don’t like Nolan at all. He’s been a cunt since he left, and arguably was here the season we went down Didn't word it too well; I wouldn't even put him in the cult hero bracket myself. Was just trying to talk down the mentalism of icon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I was not really that big a fan of Shearer tbh, neither as a person or a player. I always felt that he wasn't as dynamic as someone like say, Ian Wright. But in hindsight, that was a shallow viewpoint. Shearer relied much more heavily on quality service, and for most of his NUFC career he never really had it. We spent a load of money on 3-4 good quality players, then filled the rest of the team with cheap and cheerful types. If we'd had a couple of hard working wide players with great delivery, he'd have scored a shit-ton more. So I now revise my opinion to legend. It was something less than that before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, TRon said: I was not really that big a fan of Shearer tbh, neither as a person or a player. I always felt that he wasn't as dynamic as someone like say, Ian Wright. But in hindsight, that was a shallow viewpoint. Shearer relied much more heavily on quality service, and for most of his NUFC career he never really had it. We spent a load of money on 3-4 good quality players, then filled the rest of the team with cheap and cheerful types. If we'd had a couple of hard working wide players with great delivery, he'd have scored a shit-ton more. So I now revise my opinion to legend. It was something less than that before. Mackem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, wormy said: Didn't word it too well; I wouldn't even put him in the cult hero bracket myself. Was just trying to talk down the mentalism of icon. Sorry, bit out of the loop, what's Nolan done to be a cunt? (Not debating it, just genuinely clueless ) Edited December 7, 2021 by SiLvOR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 35 minutes ago, TRon said: I was not really that big a fan of Shearer tbh, neither as a person or a player. I always felt that he wasn't as dynamic as someone like say, Ian Wright. But in hindsight, that was a shallow viewpoint. Shearer relied much more heavily on quality service, and for most of his NUFC career he never really had it. We spent a load of money on 3-4 good quality players, then filled the rest of the team with cheap and cheerful types. If we'd had a couple of hard working wide players with great delivery, he'd have scored a shit-ton more. So I now revise my opinion to legend. It was something less than that before. You're a brave person for admitting you felt that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 32 minutes ago, SiLvOR said: Sorry, bit out of the loop, what's Nolan done to be a cunt? (Not debating it, just genuinely clueless ) There's more, but he supported Ashley when Rafa left, claiming that Rafa played the media to get the fans to like him. Claimed that Ashley was only ever trying to do he right thing for the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 32 minutes ago, SiLvOR said: Sorry, bit out of the loop, what's Nolan done to be a cunt? (Not debating it, just genuinely clueless ) @ManDoon's feelings seem a bit stronger than mine over it so may be better placed to answer this. But I seem to recall he became quite the licker of Ashley's hoop at one point, and I think there were soundbites defending more than one of the shite managers we've had since he left the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Shearergol said: You're a brave person for admitting you felt that way. Shearer is quite the calculating type tbh, he played his part in getting rid of Bellamy, he loved Souness too much, and tends to put his mates like Bruce above the club's interests. But that aside, he was a great striker, I was probably downgrading him a bit because he wasn't the quickest by the time he got to NUFC. At the time I thought he wasn't the same player after his knee op, but really I think he just got much better service at Blackburn than he ever did here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 41 minutes ago, TRon said: Shearer is quite the calculating type tbh, he played his part in getting rid of Bellamy, he loved Souness too much, and tends to put his mates like Bruce above the club's interests. But that aside, he was a great striker, I was probably downgrading him a bit because he wasn't the quickest by the time he got to NUFC. At the time I thought he wasn't the same player after his knee op, but really I think he just got much better service at Blackburn than he ever did here. The only thing that matters is when he put that shirt on he did his all for our (his) club and every time he did pull that shirt on, he did so to give 100% for the club, the team, his team-mates and any manager he played under, whether he liked them or not, as would any true Geordie. And I’m of the opinion he wouldn’t swap being our all-time top goalscorer for any number of trophies, he dreamed of being our greatest ever in a number 9 shirt as a bairn and he achieved that dream. You can’t buy that, no trophy at Man Utd would give Shearer the bairn growing up nor the man pulling on the shirt such a personal and amazing feeling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Too many Pena's scored to be considered a legend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Lazarus said: I bet you love Gary Glitters music. Don't pretend Rock and Roll part 2 isn't an absolute banger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 3 hours ago, SiLvOR said: Sorry, bit out of the loop, what's Nolan done to be a cunt? (Not debating it, just genuinely clueless ) Nolan came out in support of Ashley at one point, he can fuck right off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Think Nolan was after a coaching job here under Ashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Some weird takes on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Never understood the Nolan love he was a good honest professional and had good leadership skills. That’s it. Nowhere near an icon. Given is an icon. Or Lee. We didn’t really miss him as Cabaye was twice the player. Nolan doesn’t even seem as fond or bothered about Newcastle as someone like Joey Barton or Enrique or Jonas or most from that group of lads that Hughton managed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Hattrick against Sunderland will probably get you there but I never liked him personally. He was good playing as a second striker but an atrocious midfielder. Carroll was so dominant during that time that he made Nolan and especially Barton look much better than they were without him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 On 11/11/2021 at 18:41, Billy Pilgrim said: I dunno what bairns these days are like but when I was a kid growing up football was the only thing in the world that mattered. There was fuck all to do except go outside and play football anywhere that was flat enough. Everyone played football, everyone talked football, it was all we did. Even now I think of all the people I know in my life, the ones I played football with are the ones I know the best. "Flat enough? You 'ad it lucky, sunshine. "when I were a lad we'd play on Nun's Moor, with rolling hills. Near post was 7' and the far post was 5' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) He's definitely a legend, but like all legends who use their status to continue to profit he risks tarnishing that reputation. He certainly isn't anywhere near legendary status as a pundit. Edited December 8, 2021 by Happinesstan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, HTT II said: The only thing that matters is when he put that shirt on he did his all for our (his) club and every time he did pull that shirt on, he did so to give 100% for the club, the team, his team-mates and any manager he played under, whether he liked them or not, as would any true Geordie. And I’m of the opinion he wouldn’t swap being our all-time top goalscorer for any number of trophies, he dreamed of being our greatest ever in a number 9 shirt as a bairn and he achieved that dream. You can’t buy that, no trophy at Man Utd would give Shearer the bairn growing up nor the man pulling on the shirt such a personal and amazing feeling. He did it all for himself [no shame] and we were lucky to be blessed by his bountiful harvest. His love for the club is similar to Bruce's, professional. I know it's just a rumour, but I can well believe he'd turn down a position as ambassador, because the salary wasn't enough. He's also pals with Lineker who commands a pretty fortune for punditry not based on his skills as a pundit, but purely his status. Being Gary Lineker for an hour. Edited December 8, 2021 by Happinesstan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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