colinmk Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Just never seems to make the right substitutions. Ben Arfa coming off threw away the game. That is completely over the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 I'm not going to change my view that Hughton has done well based on this result... but he does need to improve his in-game work. Taking of Tiote for Shola against a team like Stoke is like going down to 10 men. Combine that with dropping Nolan into midfield and you're down to 9. Bizarre decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Hughton was let down by the team today - it wasn't his tactics or subs which he got right with the players we have. Ben Arfa wasn't as good today as he was vs Everton ... neither was Tiote. When we were still drawing 1-1 he went for it rather than try to hold onto a draw. Statistically this was the right call. We played better than Stoke overall and in 2 out of three games we would have won this at 1-1 with the subs he made pushing forward. If you can win 2 of these types of games and lose one you're still doing the right thing. Toward the end he was even telling Colocini to run up playing a 3-4-3. Good post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Taking Tiote off was Didn't mind Shola coming on but Tiote was the most composed player on the pitch and was dictating the midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 HBA didn't do that much really, He did a huge amount more than Nolan and Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Starting to worry about the way he makes changes in a game. hmmm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Hughton's letting himself down with his loyalty to Nolan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 I don't want to bad mouth Hughton 'cause I think he's decent. But what has Hughton got to learn? You sub the players who are playing badly. It’s as Ann as the nose on plains face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Got it all wrong. The tactics were fucking abject. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Hughton's subs cost us the game. Ben Arfa would have leapt at least 3 feet in the air, marked Jones on their first goal and then cleared Perch's own goal off the line. Fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 You lot boil my piss at times like. One week the guy's a fucking messiah, the next week he should be sacked. Have a word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Hughton's letting himself down with his loyalty to Nolan. This. In a world where Kevin Nolan isn't captain, he would have come on instead of Shola for Tiote, fresh and ready to pounce instead of being completely knackered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 We had a good first half, but we let it slip away in the second. The team played poor, but I can't look past his substitutions again. Very strange again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 You lot boil my piss at times like. One week the guy's a fucking messiah, the next week he should be sacked. Have a word. There's nothing wrong with questioning his decisions though, especially if we lose from a winning position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 HBA didn't do that much really, He kept possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Hughton's subs cost us the game. Ben Arfa would have leapt at least 3 feet in the air, marked Jones on their first goal and then cleared Perch's own goal off the line. Fact. I actually think Chris' decision not to start Arfa in goal cost us the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Like I mentioned in the match thread, there's no overall gameplan that the entire team adheres to. He just allows each individual player play to their strengths, which works sometimes, but overall makes the team look terribly disorganized. Stoke is an extreme case, but Hughton needs to decide what our defining shape is and have players adapt their styles to it to a degree. We had far superior players today but they weren't working as a unit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 You lot boil my piss at times like. One week the guy's a fucking messiah, the next week he should be sacked. Have a word. Who's calling for him to be sacked? People calling him a messiah are retards tbf, there are plenty on here. Some people have been constant in their views of him though, they saw his weaknesses and raised their concern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Hughton was let down by the team today - it wasn't his tactics or subs which he got right with the players we have. Ben Arfa wasn't as good today as he was vs Everton ... neither was Tiote. Irrelevant. Neither of them should have been taken off. Routledge has nothing, apart from pace. Gutierrez should have played on the right, Ben Arfa should have stayed on, with Nolan coming off for Shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 You lot boil my piss at times like. One week the guy's a fucking messiah, the next week he should be sacked. Have a word. There's nothing wrong with questioning his decisions though, especially if we lose from a winning position. Were his decisions that poor? Jonas looked lively when he came on, and Ben Arfa looked like he was blowing out of his arse when he was jogging off the pitch - the lad's nowhere near fully fit. Neither of the changes shaped the outcome of the match as significantly as is being made out... It was Pulis's changes that won the match, not Hughton's that lost it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Don't think anyone has said he should be sacked tbh. Well except that one guy who told him to f*** off. You can discuss Hughton's performance as you would with any player, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 You lot boil my piss at times like. One week the guy's a fucking messiah, the next week he should be sacked. Have a word. There's nothing wrong with questioning his decisions though, especially if we lose from a winning position. Were his decisions that poor? Jonas looked lively when he came on, and Ben Arfa looked like he was blowing out of his arse when he was jogging off the pitch. Neither of the changes shaped the outcome of the match as significantly as is being made out... It was Pulis's changes that won the match, not Hughton's that lost it. Stop talking sense mate, this thread is for spackers this week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 You lot boil my piss at times like. One week the guy's a fucking messiah, the next week he should be sacked. Have a word. People will deservedly praise him when he gets his decisions right and question them when he get's them wrong. It what happens in all walks of life tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 HBA may not have done much but he's the one player who can create a situation out of nothing. We're not a particularly creative or potent side, so why take off one of our best chances to grab a goal? He took him off with half an hour to go with only a 1-0 lead, that is madness! As others have said the game would have opened up, there was plenty of time for him to make his mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 You lot boil my piss at times like. One week the guy's a fucking messiah, the next week he should be sacked. Have a word. There's nothing wrong with questioning his decisions though, especially if we lose from a winning position. Were his decisions that poor? Jonas looked lively when he came on, and Ben Arfa looked like he was blowing out of his arse when he was jogging off the pitch - the lad's nowhere near fully fit. Neither of the changes shaped the outcome of the match as significantly as is being made out... It was Pulis's changes that won the match, not Hughton's that lost it. Agreed, knew this would happen. See you all in a week, not getting banned or anything just avoiding this fucking monstrosity of a thread after a loss, pathetic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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