Ronaldo Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Kirkland and Carson were never in the same league as Hart is now, man. And they were certainly never No.1 for their country or at a club with Shay Given and unlimited funds. I watched Given for 11 years, he never dominated his box or organised his defenders like Hart did last season. Given's past his best and Hart is now the better keeper, simple as that. If my point is so 'funny' why does Roberto Mancini agree with it? He evidently thinks that Hart is better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Kirkland and Carson were never in the same league as Hart is now, man. And they were certainly never No.1 for their country or at a club with Shay Given and unlimited funds. I watched Given for 11 years, he never dominated his box or organised his defenders like Hart did last season. Given's past his best and Hart is now the better keeper, simple as that. If my point is so 'funny' why does Roberto Mancini agree with it? He evidently thinks that Hart is better. Why couldn't have you said this in the first place instead of being clever? I agree that Hart is a very good young prospect, which is what i said in the first place but is he the finished article? i'm not convinced. More importantly i don't think we will find out what he is made of until he plays some big games (yesterday was the start of that). I too have watched Given for the time he had been at Newcastle and yes he did have flaws, including kicking and comunication. However, i will not forget the times he was the difference between a win and a draw or a draw and a defeat. Mancini clearly does think Hart was the better choice but i don't agree (even if his performance was excellent) and there are many things that Mancini does that i don't agree with. Hart may be a good young keeper, he even become one of the best we have ever produced, therefore i can see why Mancini is gave him the nod over Given but he will have to be f***ing good to be better than Given on his day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Oh and i wasn't saying that Kirkland and Carson (or Robinson or Green, who i also mentioned) were better prospects than Hart, only that they were bigged up, shortly before being brought back down to earth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I'll take that as you conceding defeat. Hard to judge Hart's ability at this stage but he does look like he could be a decent prospect. :lol: Heads up, smart arse is on the case. I better watch what i say or super fan will get me. I'm well aware that Hart has been around for a couple of years and has shown himself to be a good young keeper but the exact same thing was said about Carson, Green, Robinson and Kirkland, all of which haven't lived up to their expectation. Lets see how he copes after his first mistake. Anyone who uses smiley faces as a reply is a c***, glad i could help. Only kidding, don't hurt me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest je85 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Oh and i wasn't saying that Kirkland and Carson (or Robinson or Green, who i also mentioned) were better prospects than Hart, only that they were bigged up, shortly before being brought back down to earth. Bigged up and brought back down to earth. http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00039/wright_39670t.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Oh and i wasn't saying that Kirkland and Carson (or Robinson or Green, who i also mentioned) were better prospects than Hart, only that they were bigged up, shortly before being brought back down to earth. Bigged up and brought back down to earth. http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00039/wright_39670t.jpg The list is endless. Oh and it could quite easily happen with either of our two young keepers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I find it funny how some posters are having a dig at given's goalkeeping - regardless of what you think of him as a person he was a brilliant keeper for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Very good but flawed. Which essentially stopped him from being 'great.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 At what point was Kirkland or Carson no.1 for a club chasing Champions League football and their country? At what point did they ever look like decent (ish) keepers who could improve in time? Hart has everything. He's already better than Shay Given, man. Your post was ridiculous and I was only one of a few to find it funny, wise up. Hmmm, dunno about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Kirkland and Carson were never in the same league as Hart is now, man. And they were certainly never No.1 for their country or at a club with Shay Given and unlimited funds. I watched Given for 11 years, he never dominated his box or organised his defenders like Hart did last season. Given's past his best and Hart is now the better keeper, simple as that. If my point is so 'funny' why does Roberto Mancini agree with it? He evidently thinks that Hart is better. Silliest argument ever, I'm right because Mancini think the same too. I guess we just have discount the times when you criticized/disagreed with decisions of football managers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I explained in 3 posts why I felt I was right, read above, you ignorant nonce. Mancini knows far more than us about Hart, so his opinion is pretty f***ing valid in this case. He has his pick of keepers, moreso than any manager in the world, basically . He's chosen Joe Hart. My arguement was by no means predicated on this point, but it's certainly worth a mention, clearly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I will boo at my TV set as loudly as I can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I explained in 3 posts why I felt I was right, read above you ignorant nonce. Mancini knows far more than us about Hart, so his opinion is pretty f***ing valid in this case. He has his pick of keepers, moreso than any manager in the world, basically . He's chosen Joe Hart. My arguement was by no means predicated on this point, but it's certainly worth a mention, clearly. Ignorant nonce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 If he moves from City to Villa, or anyone outside the top 5 was the City move a failure? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I explained in 3 posts why I felt I was right, read above you ignorant nonce. Mancini knows far more than us about Hart, so his opinion is pretty f***ing valid in this case. He has his pick of keepers, moreso than any manager in the world, basically . He's chosen Joe Hart. My arguement was by no means predicated on this point, but it's certainly worth a mention, clearly. Ignorant nonce. Paedos V. Mancini...Who wins? You decide Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Arsenal deal is on apparently to various sauces on twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Arsenal deal is on apparently to various sauces on twitter Daddies HP Heinz Salad Cream Reggae Reggae All agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rich Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Nar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 ...release your anger ronaldo, let the hate flow through you.... http://c2.api.ning.com/files/V3d3OCp3A2MLbERwMVCTpLUirpi6pecwnuV-MdnaqlL15nGjQhQIY5V1GugVbU0QnwZ4WFLwclbRmJXHlqTwn4AOcIhl5XEK/EmperorPalpatine.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Arsenal deal is on apparently to various sauces on twitter Daddies HP Heinz Salad Cream Reggae Reggae All agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Arsenal deal is on apparently to various sauces on twitter Daddies HP Heinz Salad Cream Reggae Reggae All agreed. Heinz Salad cream isn't a sauce, its a cream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Arsenal deal is on apparently to various sauces on twitter Daddies HP Heinz Salad Cream Reggae Reggae All agreed. Heinz Salad cream isn't a sauce, its a cream. Heinz Salad cream isn't a cream. It's an emulsion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 ...release your anger ronaldo, let the hate flow through you.... http://c2.api.ning.com/files/V3d3OCp3A2MLbERwMVCTpLUirpi6pecwnuV-MdnaqlL15nGjQhQIY5V1GugVbU0QnwZ4WFLwclbRmJXHlqTwn4AOcIhl5XEK/EmperorPalpatine.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Shay Given told he can leave man city Used and abused. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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