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Cardiff City have launched a shirt 'amnesty' where supporters are encouraged to swap their Liverpool shirt for a Bluebirds top.

 

Cardiff want to turn south Wales-based Liverpool fans away from the Premier League club and support their local team instead.

 

The two sides meet in the Carling Cup final at Wembley on 26 February.

 

Fans bringing in their Liverpool shirts will be given a £12 discount on a Cardiff top.

 

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-16855256

 

Cardiff City have launched a shirt 'amnesty' where supporters are encouraged to swap their Liverpool shirt for a Bluebirds top.

 

Cardiff want to turn south Wales-based Liverpool fans away from the Premier League club and support their local team instead.

 

The two sides meet in the Carling Cup final at Wembley on 26 February.

 

Fans bringing in their Liverpool shirts will be given a £12 discount on a Cardiff top.

 

 

I'd be curious to see the take-up figures for that offer.

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John Scales on Soccer AM saying that Liverpool can/will "probably finish 4th" because "Chelsea, Arsenal and Newcastle have been far from convincing" :lol:

 

Must have missed this convincing Liverpool side.

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John Scales on Soccer AM saying that Liverpool can/will "probably finish 4th" because "Chelsea, Arsenal and Newcastle have been far from convincing" :lol:

 

Must have missed this convincing Liverpool side.

 

He must have missed their convincing defeat away at Bolton 14 short days ago

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John Scales on Soccer AM saying that Liverpool can/will "probably finish 4th" because "Chelsea, Arsenal and Newcastle have been far from convincing" :lol:

 

Must have missed this convincing Liverpool side.

 

They'll be lucky to finish above us tbh. For we are Ba2.

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It's Liverpool's ability to pull results against the top sides that gives the illusion that they are capable of great things (they are annoyingly good at this to be fair). Look how wins against the two Manchester clubs recently has completely masked the awful result and performance at Bolton and other equally awful performances at Klanfield.

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It's Liverpool's ability to pull results against the top sides that gives the illusion that they are capable of great things (they are annoyingly good at this to be fair). Look how wins against the two Manchester clubs recently has completely masked the awful result and performance at Bolton and other equally awful performances at Klanfield.

 

Think it's cause their very high workrate works out against stronger sides,  but the lack of creativity fails against sides that sit.

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Trying to talk about the Suarez thing to scousers is genuinely like when you talk to people in a cult.  Suarez said the only time he used the word 'negro' is when saying "Why, black?" in that "matey" manner.  Evra said he said "Because you are black" in response to asking why he was kicked.  Damien Comolli, Liverpool's DoF, said that Suarez told him he had said "Because you are black".  Dirk Kuyt testified that Suarez has told him in Dutch he'd said "Because you are black", which Suarez says must have been another 'lost in translation' thing.  Dalglish told the referee that Mr Suarez responded with “you are black” having first been taunted with ‘you are South American’, contradicting Suarez saying he only ever said "Why, black?".  Liverpool's evidence is what changed it from being one man's word against another.  But all you get is conspiracy theories about the date of the hearing being deliberately chosen to disadvantage Liverpool.

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Trying to talk about the Suarez thing to scousers is genuinely like when you talk to people in a cult.  Suarez said the only time he used the word 'negro' is when saying "Why, black?" in that "matey" manner.  Evra said he said "Because you are black" in response to asking why he was kicked.  Damien Comolli, Liverpool's DoF, said that Suarez told him he had said "Because you are black".  Dirk Kuyt testified that Suarez has told him in Dutch he'd said "Because you are black", which Suarez says must have been another 'lost in translation' thing.  Dalglish told the referee that Mr Suarez responded with “you are black” having first been taunted with ‘you are South American’, contradicting Suarez saying he only ever said "Why, black?".  Liverpool's evidence is what changed it from being one man's word against another.  But all you get is conspiracy theories about the date of the hearing being deliberately chosen to disadvantage Liverpool.

 

that whole post :lol:

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It's Liverpool's ability to pull results against the top sides that gives the illusion that they are capable of great things (they are annoyingly good at this to be fair). Look how wins against the two Manchester clubs recently has completely masked the awful result and performance at Bolton and other equally awful performances at Klanfield.

 

Well yeah. It means the side isn't shit in an absolute sense, which is certainly something.

 

Yet, you're clearly doing something wrong if you can regularly beat/draw with the top sides in the division but struggle so badly in the supposedly easy games.

 

Not restricted to scousers, it's Liverpool fans in general.

 

I have three close friends, Liverpool supporters, all think Evra is a cunt, Suarez, victimised.  :idiot2:

 

Evra *is* a cunt (it was he who kicked off the French revolt at the last World Cup).

 

Not that this somehow means the FA ruling was wrong.

 

I get and admire the whole unconditional support of your club thing, but extending that to the people who own/run/play for the club is neither admirable nor sensible.

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So, to head off on a slightly different subject...the Next Gen comp. We withdrew after beating Liverpool in the quarter-final.

 

It's a tourny for those born after Jan 1st 1993, so most teams have been playing 17/18-year olds. It turns out that we played a couple of foreign 15-year-olds in early rounds, but didn't realize that they were automatically considered minors and thus were technically ineligible. Apparently if they were English it would have been OK.

 

Anyhoo, the story is that Liverpool had worked this out ages ago and sat on the information. They only raised it to us after we beat them, whereupon we informed the NextGen guys immediately and withdrew. A silly mistake on our part, but fair enough, and I'm glad we did the right thing. It just seems a bit sneaky that Liverpool only said this after playing us, when it seems that they knew about it weeks ago. It was a card that they kept up their sleeve, knowing that they could let us beat whoever, but if we played them they were guaranteed to go through.

 

Hearsay of course, but there you go.

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So, to head off on a slightly different subject...the Next Gen comp. We withdrew after beating Liverpool in the quarter-final.

 

It's a tourny for those born after Jan 1st 1993, so most teams have been playing 17/18-year olds. It turns out that we played a couple of foreign 15-year-olds in early rounds, but didn't realize that they were automatically considered minors and thus were technically ineligible. Apparently if they were English it would have been OK.

 

Anyhoo, the story is that Liverpool had worked this out ages ago and sat on the information. They only raised it to us after we beat them, whereupon we informed the NextGen guys immediately and withdrew. A silly mistake on our part, but fair enough, and I'm glad we did the right thing. It just seems a bit sneaky that Liverpool only said this after playing us, when it seems that they knew about it weeks ago. It was a card that they kept up their sleeve, knowing that they could let us beat whoever, but if we played them they were guaranteed to go through.

 

Hearsay of course, but there you go.

 

Does sound like they knew about it and used it only after they lost. Low.

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They were only talking about this on the radio an hour ago. They said the 2 players were older than they should of been, it is an under 19 tournament. Spurs won 1-0. A few days later Spurs themselves realised they had played 2 players who were allowed in the earlier round, but were now to old, and withdrew from the tournament,they issued a statement saying so, and have wished Liverpool luck in the competition. That was the first Liverpool knew of it.

However........what they did say is that, Liverpool are only in the tournament, because Everton, who apparently won the league for that age group last season, declined to take part, as they didnt want to pay the costs etc.

Well there was 2 journalists talking, the other one thought Liverpool had an invite anyway before everton dropped out.

I havent even heard of this tournament, but there saying Liverpool will play Barcelona in the semi final, so there getting fucked anyway  :laugh:

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So, to head off on a slightly different subject...the Next Gen comp. We withdrew after beating Liverpool in the quarter-final.

 

It's a tourny for those born after Jan 1st 1993, so most teams have been playing 17/18-year olds. It turns out that we played a couple of foreign 15-year-olds in early rounds, but didn't realize that they were automatically considered minors and thus were technically ineligible. Apparently if they were English it would have been OK.

 

Anyhoo, the story is that Liverpool had worked this out ages ago and sat on the information. They only raised it to us after we beat them, whereupon we informed the NextGen guys immediately and withdrew. A silly mistake on our part, but fair enough, and I'm glad we did the right thing. It just seems a bit sneaky that Liverpool only said this after playing us, when it seems that they knew about it weeks ago. It was a card that they kept up their sleeve, knowing that they could let us beat whoever, but if we played them they were guaranteed to go through.

 

Hearsay of course, but there you go.

 

You've saved my life here.

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Of course that's what it sounds like: that's what the story says.

 

Is there any evidence at all that this is actually what happened?

 

No, like I say, it's only anecdotal. The only thing is that the guy saying it is usually reliable.

 

They were only talking about this on the radio an hour ago. They said the 2 players were older than they should of been, it is an under 19 tournament. Spurs won 1-0. A few days later Spurs themselves realised they had played 2 players who were allowed in the earlier round, but were now to old, and withdrew from the tournament,they issued a statement saying so, and have wished Liverpool luck in the competition. That was the first Liverpool knew of it...

 

Really? The rules are that players need to be born after Jan 1st 1993. I don't think that changes for the later stages. You can actually play two over-age players anyway. Maybe those over-age players were now too over-age?

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