The Liverpool Thread

[Foluwashola]

He's taking charge of the u18s. At that stage you're passed the 'let the kids enjoy the game' stage and they have to be morphed into proper footballers.

[Ketsbaia]

Bring it on. Hard smashing British PFM, tika-taka, rapid counter-attacking, pressing, bus parking..... it'd be shit if everyone had the same style, will just be more fun when Gerrard gets humiliated.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

He's taking charge of the u18s. At that stage you're passed the 'let the kids enjoy the game' stage and they have to be morphed into proper footballers.

 

Aye.

[Guest firetotheworks]

It's a mixed bag of quotes for me. A lot of fair points, but I disagree that being physical is the be-all-and-end-all answer like, always will.

 

[Mole_Toonfan]

"Too many try to model themselves on Ronaldo" Aye don't model yourself on the hardest working player in the game lads

 

In some aspects sure, but as great as Ronaldo is i'm not sure i'd want every right footed left winger to actually provide no width and and don't really help his full back out.

 

It works for Ronaldo because he's so fucking good but we have seen with other rip offs that it's not something that translates to everybody.

[Guest neesy111]

It needs to be a balance of physicality and skill, it's a fine balance as well to get right.  For me, perez would be twice the player if he was physically right for England and the PL but how much of his skill would be lose?

[triggs]

"Too many try to model themselves on Ronaldo" Aye don't model yourself on the hardest working player in the game lads

 

In some aspects sure, but as great as Ronaldo is i'm not sure i'd want every right footed left winger to actually provide no width and and don't really help his full back out.

 

It works for Ronaldo because he's so fucking good but we have seen with other rip offs that it's not something that translates to everybody.

Aye I meant in the ultra professional, hard working off the pitch, getting the very most out of his ability way. If I was a coach of promising youngsters I'd be using Ronaldo's transformation in terms of physique and power as an example of what it takes to be the best

[Mole_Toonfan]

Oh right yeah in terms of being an ultra professional and having the passion to get better each and every year there's probably very few people i'd rather want kids to learn from tbh.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I want every kid to love Ronaldo TBH, when they're older they can work out if they should actually be James Milner.

[Odear]

Ronaldo is a thoroughbred race horse. Like Frankel, a genetic freak..

 

He has to work extra hard to compensate for his lack of Messi type skill. Which he does.

 

He scores a shed load of goals with an unusual toe poke style of striking the ball. If he wasn't so fast/fit/strong he'd be a bang average footballer but take nothing away from him. He works his tail off to get the chances he gets in games.

 

If Ayoze had even a sniff of that sort of professionalism he'd be a superstar.

[Dave]

Think that's incredibly harsh on his ability tbh.

[Ameritoon]

Pretty sure it was a conscious change from Ronaldo to bulk and use his physicality instead of his technical dribbling out on the wing. He was equally as fun to watch as Messi was during his time at Man Utd.

[Mole_Toonfan]

Think that's incredibly harsh on his ability tbh.

 

I think it says more about how ridiculously talented Messi is tbh, maybe the bang average part is OTT though.

[wacko]

Think that's incredibly harsh on his ability tbh.

 

No fan of his, but there's no denying that Placcy Ronaldo is a very, very good footballer.

[Happinesstan]

"Too many try to model themselves on Ronaldo" Aye don't model yourself on the hardest working player in the game lads

 

Yeah, I'm sure that's what he meant, especially when you put it into context with everything else he said.

[triggs]

"Too many try to model themselves on Ronaldo" Aye don't model yourself on the hardest working player in the game lads

 

Yeah, I'm sure that's what he meant, especially when you put it into context with everything else he said.

I know what he meant, he just used a horrible example to get his point across

[Si]

Lesson 1- Slipping the Hollywood pass.

 

Lesson 2 - Gerrrraaaaaarrrrd.

 

Lesson 3 - Erm you know.

 

 

[Newcastle Fan]

Surely Parky got another goal back?

[mrmojorisin75]

Think that's incredibly harsh on his ability tbh.

 

No fan of his, but there's no denying that Placcy Ronaldo is a very, very good footballer.

 

he just changed his game as has been said, went from provider to selfish goalscorer once it became very clear he was a brilliant goalscorer and he's pursued that ruthlessly ever since

 

i do wonder if he could have adapted the other way to become a great #10

[The College Dropout]

He's taking charge of the u18s. At that stage you're passed the 'let the kids enjoy the game' stage and they have to be morphed into proper footballers.

 

It's not about enjoying - it's about learning the game and improving your skills. You're not goign to become a proper footballer playing under 18's footy

[The College Dropout]

The toe poke finishes is largely down to superb technique.

 

Remember we've seen the lad from the age of 18. Look how he's developed into a poacher, brilliant movement in the box. The leap may be in part due to his physique but the technique in his headers is also tremendous.

 

People talk about his development just in terms of physicality but he improved every area of his game (except selflessness) technically and in his mind, if he's going to pass. He didn't just do a Gabby Agbon and get hench - no he dedicated himself to training. Physical and technical. You can tell i training he wants to be the best. Train the hardest.

 

James Milner is similar in that aspect although not as good. Developed leaps and bounds over the last 10-15 years.

[UV]

Pretty sure it was a conscious change from Ronaldo to bulk and use his physicality instead of his technical dribbling out on the wing. He was equally as fun to watch as Messi was during his time at Man Utd.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Ronaldo doesn't have Messi's skill set (who does?), but he's a very skillful player in his own right and technically brilliant. He has totally transformed his game. From a skinny but leggy one trick winger to a centre-forward that can be argued is the best ever in that position? I actually prefer Ronaldo to Messi and if I could have either in my team, I'd have Ronaldo over Messi. I think he's a great player and if I were a coach or a manager with a talented young player on my hands I'd say use Ronaldo as a role model.

 

Rooney had similar ability, maybe even more, and while he's also had a great career, he will never be considered a great great player outside of his own club and the Premier League maybe. Ronaldo will go down as one of the all-time best and rightly so. What he has achieved and how he has made himself to be the player he has is nothing short of remarkable. More so than Messi IMO.

[triggs]

Ronaldo doesn't have Messi's skill set (who does?), but he's a very skillful player in his own right and technically brilliant. He has totally transformed his game. From a skinny but leggy one trick winger to a centre-forward that can be argued is the best ever in that position? I actually prefer Ronaldo to Messi and if I could have either in my team, I'd have Ronaldo over Messi. I think he's a great player and if I were a coach or a manager with a talented young player on my hands I'd say use Ronaldo as a role model.

 

Rooney had similar ability, maybe even more, and while he's also had a great career, he will never be considered a great great player outside of his own club and the Premier League maybe. Ronaldo will go down as one of the all-time best and rightly so. What he has achieved and how he has made himself to be the player he has is nothing short of remarkable. More so than Messi IMO.

No.

[mrmojorisin75]

Ronaldo doesn't have Messi's skill set (who does?), but he's a very skillful player in his own right and technically brilliant. He has totally transformed his game. From a skinny but leggy one trick winger to a centre-forward that can be argued is the best ever in that position? I actually prefer Ronaldo to Messi and if I could have either in my team, I'd have Ronaldo over Messi. I think he's a great player and if I were a coach or a manager with a talented young player on my hands I'd say use Ronaldo as a role model.

 

Rooney had similar ability, maybe even more, and while he's also had a great career, he will never be considered a great great player outside of his own club and the Premier League maybe. Ronaldo will go down as one of the all-time best and rightly so. What he has achieved and how he has made himself to be the player he has is nothing short of remarkable. More so than Messi IMO.

No.

 

not even close