Guest mimifrench Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Is it normal that every time Ben arfa got the ball on his feet, all the other players just stared at him, maybe waiting for him to do something exceptional and consequently no offering any solutions to him?? He made some really stupid decisions like that "heel" in the middle of the pitch... But I thought the match was more "lively" with him in the squad. First half was very boring. Nevertheless, to my mind, he doesn't deserve his place in the starting XI yet. If he starts on the Cup, it will be a good test for him as he needs to START some matches, to not have on his shoulders the pressure of coming for the last minutes like in the previous games. Before the match, French commentators said that HBA has fixed to himself a date to be fully fit in order to be in the starting XI : the date is 14th November (Man City away if i remember well). They said he absolutely wants to be present for the matches against City and Manchester United... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Is it normal that every time Ben arfa got the ball on his feet, all the other players just stared at him, maybe waiting for him to do something exceptional and consequently no offering any solutions to him?? He made some really stupid decisions like that "heel" in the middle of the pitch... But I thought the match was more "lively" with him in the squad. First half was very boring. Nevertheless, to my mind, he doesn't deserve his place in the starting XI yet. If he starts on the Cup, it will be a good test for him as he needs to START some matches, to not have on his shoulders the pressure of coming for the last minutes like in the previous games. Before the match, French commentators said that HBA has fixed to himself a date to be fully fit in order to be in the starting XI : the date is 14th November (Man City away if i remember well). They said he absolutely wants to be present for the matches against City and Manchester United... Definitely a problem at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Looked better than his Spurs appearance IMO, which shows that he's improving. It's clearly a fitness/sharpness thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I must admit, even I like that. I get giddy as fuck every time he touches the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I must admit, even I like that. I get giddy as f*** every time he touches the ball. The Gallowgate stands as one every time he approaches the box. You just don't know what he's going to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Without excelling individually, we've looked much more threatening in the last 2 games since he's came on. He strikes fear in opponents and its scary to think theres better to come from him. The other players need to give him options though. i said this in the match thread but cabaye was marked out of the last two games imo when we were 4-4-2...it was clear to me yesterday that HBA was exactly what was needed to exploit the space left by their midfield pushing onto cabaye in our half and so it turned out imo...although he didn't "win" the game his being on the pitched opened the game up for us and thankfully obertan had been replaced by an actual footballer ba/best & HBA for me, has to be, at home anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Definitely has people on the edge of their seats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Was shit again yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Prove it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 The fact he nearly cost us three points proves enough. The world class twat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mimifrench Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 If the Wigan forwards hadn't been so clumsy, you could easily have been 1 or 2 down in the HT, ans it's surely not the fault of Ben arfa... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 It looks his agility/pace isn't completely back, which I hope is a sharpness/fitness issue rather than an uncorrectable physical issue, but he had a few nice touches and looked better towards the end of the match. I would start him against Stoke to make sure we're able to control possession. It'll be important to make sure the game's played in their half so we aren't subjected to the avalanche of crosses and throw-ins from dangerous positions. I think that's a spot on assessment. Yeah, the change of pace and direction is there, but I haven't seen evidence yet of the flat-out pace that he showed initially. Hopefully it'll come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 there was one particular instance where he foolishly lost the ball in midfield and it nearly cost us. He was trying to do too much again yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 The fact he nearly cost us three points proves enough. The world class t***. Stop spacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyP Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 people criticise his backheel, it wasnt necessary and he conceded possession...still, im all for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 We needed to win the game, him trying to run with the ball and open up the game is hardly a bad thing. The only stupid thing he did was the backheel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Needs a full 90 against Blackburn, looks like he is, understandably, lacking that match sharpness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I'd be lacking match sharpness if De Jong snapped my leg in two. Give him time. I'd be even tempted to write off the next couple months, won't be back to his best (but still more than good enough to start, like). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 People wank over him too much. He is world class, but needs to keep things simple to look world class. If Angel gabriel did that people would spit their bovril at him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest michaelfoster Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Hope it all eventually comes good for him but dont think he warrants taking Best's starting place yet. this at the minute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I said it weeks ago, but he needs 15-20 games. Looked better the last 15 minutes yesterday. Hopefully he will get the full 90 on wednesday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 People w*** over him too much. He is world class, but needs to keep things simple to look world class. If Angel gabriel did that people would spit their bovril at him. If you think this then you don't understand the role Ben Arfa is playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 People wank over him too much. He is world class, but needs to keep things simple to look world class. If Angel gabriel did that people would spit their bovril at him. He's not world class man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 People w*** over him too much. He is world class, but needs to keep things simple to look world class. If Angel gabriel did that people would spit their bovril at him. If you think this then you don't understand the role Ben Arfa is playing. I understand perfectly. It's no excuse though - you play pretty football and run at people in the final third, not the centre of the park - that's where you keep it simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 People w*** over him too much. He is world class, but needs to keep things simple to look world class. If Angel gabriel did that people would spit their bovril at him. He's not world class man. Neither is Messi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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