Cheick Tioté (1986–2017)

[Dr. Nguyen Van Falk]

Slightly intrigued by 'sex guess who' tbh...

[Cajun]

I remember reading that Man Utd had a 24 hour phone number that their players could call for absolutely anything they needed.  Toilet blocked?  Call the number.  Out of cat food?  Call the number.  Killed a hooker in a drug fuelled game of sex guess who?  Call the number.

 

Apparently a lot of them had been cosseted from such a young age they had no idea how to do anything for themselves.  One called asking how to post something ffs.

 

I think that's counter-productive tbh, they are never going to grow up and learn to do anything for themselves if they know all they have to do is call a number and someone will do it for them.

[mrmojorisin75]

they should be helped acclimatise to their new country for a few months maybe, helped out learning how things work, then they should be left to their devices and if necessary spend some of their millions of pounds getting monkeys to sort shit out for them

 

throw away the key

[Cajun]

There is definitely nothing wrong with helping young/foreign players for a bit but they need to be cut off from the tit at some point.

[NEEJ]

Is he fit to play today?

[Rich]

Yep.

[mrmojorisin75]

fuck

[NEEJ]

Get in. Fun times ahead...

[Smal]

Yep.

 

Subjective

[54]

Thought he did well when he came on yesterday.

[Belfast Mags]

He just needs to get back to basics.

And not fucking lunge in so often, but that said I though he did OK when he came on.

[Ste]

I've got zero confidence in him starting games now. Decent as a sub.

[Pilko]

The only games I'd want to see him starting in are against the bigger sides when we could probably do with another body in midfield to generally break things up and 'spoil' if you like. As much as I really rate Anita I could see him maybe being bullied out of those sorts of games, when we won't have much possession.

[Mole_Toonfan]

The only games I'd want to see him starting in are against the bigger sides when we could probably do with another body in midfield to generally break things up and 'spoil' if you like. As much as I really rate Anita I could see him maybe being bullied out of those sorts of games, when we won't have much possession.

 

Worked out grand against City.... plus we didn't have much possession against Villa and he seemed fine.

 

At least Anita has good possession sense and can block passing lanes, something Tiote is horrible at.

 

I thought he was good yesterday but that really is what i'd stick him to, sub who can come in to help us shut up shop.

 

 

[Pilko]

The City game is a shit example because Anita came on and was completely anonymous. Tiote was also poor but we had a collective off-day there really. Only Krul and HBA (and Dummett) played even approaching an acceptable level.

[Tiresias]

I wonder if an extended period of Anita keeping him out may give him the kick up the arse he needs to relearn his game, I hope. Tbh i've largely given up on him ever getting any good again

[Pilko]

He'll still have the odd useful performance, and the very occasional great performance (1 or 2 a season that is), but I don't think he'll ever be a consistently effective force for us anymore. The 7-3 away at Arsenal was the point of no return for me.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I never thought he was a write-off, I still don't. The problem is that opponents have worked him out and he needs to adapt. Mainly be releasing the ball quicker, which he did alright when he came on.

[Segun Oluwaniyi]

He's just not a very good player. I like the boy and he can still be useful for us as cover, imo (not that I am overly enamoured with Anita, either, but he will do for now), but he lacks what is necessary to be a great player in his position. He isn't responsible defensively and doesn't under or hold his position well. He tries to imitate the higher level defensive midfielders by using his strength and technical ability to hold ball in tight spaces but he just isn't technically good enough for this. He also is too erratic with his passing. People can and will take the ball off of him and he will lose of his own volition too often.

 

Still, his sheer aggression and physicality can be a huge asset to the team in certain matches and situations. He should take a cue from Obi Mikel and stop shooting from outside the box at any time, though. It is just wasting position and endangering children.

[Heron]

To be fair to Tiote, I think he has obviously been told (and rightly so) to improve the areas of his game that would see him become a decent international standard player. Unfortunately, that is where he is more limited, i.e. in his passing and attacking game. If he is told to stick to what he does best and be a play-breaker and not a play-maker then he will look decent again. He's the exact sort of player we will need on the pitch against the better sides in my opinion, especially at home when we want to get in their faces and gee the fans up a bit. If he can just make the tackles an knock it 5/10 yards to the likes of Cabaye then everyone wins.

[Ronaldo]

Tiote at home. Aye, right. Stick Jonas in too while we're at it.

[tmonkey]

I hope we move him on. Was an excellent defensive midfielder in his first 1.5 seasons here, but Pardew tried to change his game too much following the Arsenal goal, and now we're left with a midfielder who has absolutely no clue what he's meant to be doing or how to do it. Very similar with Scott Parker and Roeder's attempt to change him into the new Steven Gerrard after a wondergoal against Charlton. Given that we have significantly better options now we just can't afford to attempt to stick it out with him and hope he turns the miserable form around. Just have to hope Pardew sees this and that he's not too stubborn/arrogant to realise his experiment has failed and Tiote needs to be dumped.

[Dinho lad]

I hope we move him on. Was an excellent defensive midfielder in his first 1.5 seasons here, but Pardew tried to change his game too much following the Arsenal goal, and now we're left with a midfielder who has absolutely no clue what he's meant to be doing or how to do it. Very similar with Scott Parker and Roeder's attempt to change him into the new Steven Gerrard after a wondergoal against Charlton. Given that we have significantly better options now we just can't afford to attempt to stick it out with him and hope he turns the miserable form around. Just have to hope Pardew sees this and that he's not too stubborn/arrogant to realise his experiment has failed and Tiote needs to be dumped.

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I don't really believe his problems are to do with being told to change his game. I think it's more to do with opponents working out how to pressure him and make him lose the ball.

[Guest firetotheworks]

That happens, definitely, but he brings it on himself. His passing is shit.