Flip Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Found another, more detailed, Argie article: http://canchallena.lanacion.com.ar/1727744-el-duro-momento-de-jonas-gutierrez-que-pelea-contra-una-enfermedad Says Colo knew, and has supported him greatly. He's also kept it a secret to most people, even saying to friends that he had shaved his head "because of a bet". Just read it, hits hard realizing it reached the stage of chemo. Nowadays the awareness of testicular cancer is so good that it's usually found out at early stages... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Really sad, this. Get well soon, Jonas! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Says he talked to the club and it was his choice to face it on his own, since he preferred to come to Argentina where he could talk to doctors in Spanish, etc... Has one chemo session left and then two months of recovery. He's pretty calm and optimistic, so seems everything is going ok. Says he had some of his sperm frozen before the op, since he still wants to have children. Contrarily to what some of the articles say, he found out the cancer had affected his nodes during this summer, not while playing for Norwich. He kept it secret from almost everybody, claiming that he had shaved his head because of a bet, etc... it's taken him a while to be open about it. Cites Colo, Heinze, Demichelis as some of the people that knew and supported him. Colo has visited him often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Awww man, get well soon Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Says he talked to the club and it was his choice to face it on his own, since he preferred to come to Argentina where he could talk to doctors in Spanish, etc... Has one chemo session left and then two months of recovery. He's pretty calm and optimistic, so seems everything is going ok. Says he had some of his sperm frozen before the op, since he still wants to have children. Contrarily to what some of the articles say, he found out the cancer had affected his nodes during this summer, not while playing for Norwich. He kept it secret from almost everybody, claiming that he had shaved his head because of a bet, etc... it's taken him a while to be open about it. Cites Colo, Heinze, Demichelis as some of the people that knew and supported him. Colo has visited him often. Thanks for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Horrible news this Hope he recovers soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Fucking hell,I was out and just saw this now. Horrible news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Thanks VI. All the best Jonas. Thinking of you dude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Just wondering whether the quote "Newcastle told me to leave" could be a poor translation of them just granting him compassionate leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Just wondering whether the quote "Newcastle told me to leave" could be a poor translation of them just granting him compassionate leave. That quote is about when he returned and Pardew told him that it was better for him to search for another club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 From January: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/norwichs-jonas-gutierrez-newcastle-exit-3029641 “The manager told me in December I was not going to play any more and told me to find myself another club. “I don’t know why it happened and I still don’t understand what I did wrong. “There were no rows with Alan Pardew or anything like that. He just said I needed to leave and that was that. “I honestly don’t know why I wasn’t playing, you will have to ask the manager that. He just made his decision and that was it. Something must have happened – but I don’t know what.”Gutierrez knew the writing was on the wall when he was left out of the FA Cup third round tie against Cardiff. He admitted: “I was hoping I would get an opportunity in the cup. But instead I was left sitting in the stand. I was not even named in the squad for the game. So after that I knew it was all over for me. For five years before that I had always been in the starting XI. Then suddenly I wasn’t even in the squad. “I still don’t know why and I don’t think I will ever understand it. It’s how football is and you just have to get on with it.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Hoser Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Get well Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Pards played a blinder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Probably that contract extension clause? Of course he knew about it if that's the truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Awful news. All the best Jonas. Dont use this as point-scoring against the regime. Not on this thread anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Horrible news Really hope everything works out for the best. What an unbelieveable situation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 What's this about? Is this on the article? @KHeneage: The caption on one article reporting of Jonas' situation claims #NUFC didn't want anything to do with it. If that's true, I'm speechless. In the interview Jonás says that it was his decision. He indeed says the club didn't pay a dime, but Jonás says that he "doesn't care about that" (he doesn't seem angry or anything). Imho it looks to me that he wanted to get as few "outer" people involved in it as possible, since he only told very few people about his sickness until this interview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I think he needs all the support possible and he does not need to be dragged into the fans vs club debate as we don't know the full facts. He's a great bloke and hope he makes a speedy recovery. Lets just keep the protests for the crappy football and ownership reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Heartbreaking! Hope Jonas makes a full recovery.God be with you Jonas! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Byker Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Get well soon, Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Horrible to hear this. Jonas was probably one of the players who genuinely truly loved the club and fans up here like HBA. Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke at our monster club. Hope someone gets banners done for Saturday. Owh yeah, fuck off Pardew! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 @HEGS_com: Returned late November, and in mid December Pardew told him he'd be better off finding another club, which surprised him. I've decided to just assume there's a less fucked up explanation here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Honestly, the Argie journo tries a couple times to fish for controversy regarding Newcastle's part in this, and Jonás doesn't bite. So either there's none or Jonás is being a gent. I'm fine with either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Unless Jonas comes out and says something himself, I don't think there's anything much to criticise the club for here. Not at this point anyway. Seems it was kept quiet by everyone which is perfectly understandable. How he was treated as a player is obviously completely separate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Can't believe this. Love Jonas absolutely awful news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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