Guest neesy111 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I couldn't blame him after that Liverpool game. Could had been 10-1 if it wasn't for his heroics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 What a shit end to a career, the smoggies ffs Really don't have any bad feeling for Given at all, he was a great servant to this club IMO and left in an attempt to actually win some trophies, something we were clearly never going to do. Always seemed like a decent lad too, well spoken with a good attitude. Shame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Can't believe the given hate in here tbh. Not sure what people expected off him, gave us years of good service and left for a team with CL/PL aspirations. Mad Timing, he forced a move mid season. Sure he gave us years of good service but the club had certainly played a part in helping him make his reputation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Can't believe the given hate in here tbh. Not sure what people expected off him, gave us years of good service and left for a team with CL/PL aspirations. Mad Mad? No. I have a lot of great memories of Shay, but I'm not going to defend him against people who feel let down by his actions. Tbh it's arguably more mad that you seem to show more loyalty to a player who demanded a transfer at a godawful time for us (and not for the first time), and whatever the other factors, almost certainly helped seal our fate that season. Nor does it matter much to many people (I'd suspect) that you think he went to a better club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Can't believe the given hate in here tbh. Not sure what people expected off him, gave us years of good service and left for a team with CL/PL aspirations. Mad Timing, he forced a move mid season. Sure he gave us years of good service but the club had certainly played a part in helping him make his reputation. That was his last real chance of a big move though. None of the other clubs needed him, City had the money and were in the opening stages of where they are now. If they'd not signed Given that January, they'd have either just signed someone else or wait until the January until they were in a position to sign someone better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Can't believe the given hate in here tbh. Not sure what people expected off him, gave us years of good service and left for a team with CL/PL aspirations. Mad Timing, he forced a move mid season. Sure he gave us years of good service but the club had certainly played a part in helping him make his reputation. That was his last real chance of a big move though. None of the other clubs needed him, City had the money and were in the opening stages of where they are now. If they'd not signed Given that January, they'd have either just signed someone else or wait until the January until they were in a position to sign someone better. If he'd cracked on for another 4 months and played to form (such as that horrendous 1-5, never forgotten) he'd have had no problems getting a lucrative move. I'll be honest here - I think player loyalty is a concept that went out the window years ago. I know why it happens and I have some sympathy with players that work the system, but I'll never think too fondly of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Can't believe the given hate in here tbh. Not sure what people expected off him, gave us years of good service and left for a team with CL/PL aspirations. Mad Timing, he forced a move mid season. Sure he gave us years of good service but the club had certainly played a part in helping him make his reputation. That was his last real chance of a big move though. None of the other clubs needed him, City had the money and were in the opening stages of where they are now. If they'd not signed Given that January, they'd have either just signed someone else or wait until the January until they were in a position to sign someone better. If he'd cracked on for another 4 months and played to form (such as that horrendous 1-5, never forgotten) he'd have had no problems getting a lucrative move. I'll be honest here - I think player loyalty is a concept that went out the window years ago. I know why it happens and I have some sympathy with players that work the system, but I'll never think too fondly of them. Who to though? The other top clubs in this country were sorted in goal, and Man City would have bought someone better in the summer when they had more time and availability to sign someone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Did he hand in a transfer request in the end? Honestly can't remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Did he hand in a transfer request in the end? Honestly can't remember. He did, aye. 30th January 2009. Nice of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 http://www.thejournal.co.uk/news/north-east-news/agent-sues-shay-given-share-4466931 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Can't believe the given hate in here tbh. Not sure what people expected off him, gave us years of good service and left for a team with CL/PL aspirations. Mad Timing, he forced a move mid season. Sure he gave us years of good service but the club had certainly played a part in helping him make his reputation. That was his last real chance of a big move though. None of the other clubs needed him, City had the money and were in the opening stages of where they are now. If they'd not signed Given that January, they'd have either just signed someone else or wait until the January until they were in a position to sign someone better. If he'd cracked on for another 4 months and played to form (such as that horrendous 1-5, never forgotten) he'd have had no problems getting a lucrative move. I'll be honest here - I think player loyalty is a concept that went out the window years ago. I know why it happens and I have some sympathy with players that work the system, but I'll never think too fondly of them. Who to though? The other top clubs in this country were sorted in goal, and Man City would have bought someone better in the summer when they had more time and availability to sign someone. He went to City as a squad player, and then to Villa as a squad player....The clubs he went to had better options. He chased the pound, fair enough, you only get one go at it. I just think he could have handled his exit better and still have got what he wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Can't believe the given hate in here tbh. Not sure what people expected off him, gave us years of good service and left for a team with CL/PL aspirations. Mad Timing, he forced a move mid season. Sure he gave us years of good service but the club had certainly played a part in helping him make his reputation. That was his last real chance of a big move though. None of the other clubs needed him, City had the money and were in the opening stages of where they are now. If they'd not signed Given that January, they'd have either just signed someone else or wait until the January until they were in a position to sign someone better. If he'd cracked on for another 4 months and played to form (such as that horrendous 1-5, never forgotten) he'd have had no problems getting a lucrative move. I'll be honest here - I think player loyalty is a concept that went out the window years ago. I know why it happens and I have some sympathy with players that work the system, but I'll never think too fondly of them. Who to though? The other top clubs in this country were sorted in goal, and Man City would have bought someone better in the summer when they had more time and availability to sign someone. He went to City as a squad player, and then to Villa as a squad player....The clubs he went to had better options. He chased the pound, fair enough, you only get one go at it. I just think he could have handled his exit better and still have got what he wanted. He didn't go to either of those clubs as a squad player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 He went to City and was first choice for 18 months. If it hadn't been for Hart's rapid emergence he'd have been first choice at least another season too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Can't believe the given hate in here tbh. Not sure what people expected off him, gave us years of good service and left for a team with CL/PL aspirations. Mad Timing, he forced a move mid season. Sure he gave us years of good service but the club had certainly played a part in helping him make his reputation. That was his last real chance of a big move though. None of the other clubs needed him, City had the money and were in the opening stages of where they are now. If they'd not signed Given that January, they'd have either just signed someone else or wait until the January until they were in a position to sign someone better. If he'd cracked on for another 4 months and played to form (such as that horrendous 1-5, never forgotten) he'd have had no problems getting a lucrative move. I'll be honest here - I think player loyalty is a concept that went out the window years ago. I know why it happens and I have some sympathy with players that work the system, but I'll never think too fondly of them. Who to though? The other top clubs in this country were sorted in goal, and Man City would have bought someone better in the summer when they had more time and availability to sign someone. He went to City as a squad player, and then to Villa as a squad player....The clubs he went to had better options. He chased the pound, fair enough, you only get one go at it. I just think he could have handled his exit better and still have got what he wanted. He went to City and Villa as a squad player?! Eh?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 No animosity towards him at all. I don't think it's right to say he chased the money, I think he legitimately went there to try and win something. I can see why his way of leaving would leave a sour taste for others though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Can't believe the given hate in here tbh. Not sure what people expected off him, gave us years of good service and left for a team with CL/PL aspirations. Mad Timing, he forced a move mid season. Sure he gave us years of good service but the club had certainly played a part in helping him make his reputation. That was his last real chance of a big move though. None of the other clubs needed him, City had the money and were in the opening stages of where they are now. If they'd not signed Given that January, they'd have either just signed someone else or wait until the January until they were in a position to sign someone better. If he'd cracked on for another 4 months and played to form (such as that horrendous 1-5, never forgotten) he'd have had no problems getting a lucrative move. I'll be honest here - I think player loyalty is a concept that went out the window years ago. I know why it happens and I have some sympathy with players that work the system, but I'll never think too fondly of them. Who to though? The other top clubs in this country were sorted in goal, and Man City would have bought someone better in the summer when they had more time and availability to sign someone. He went to City as a squad player, and then to Villa as a squad player....The clubs he went to had better options. He chased the pound, fair enough, you only get one go at it. I just think he could have handled his exit better and still have got what he wanted. He didn't go to either of those clubs as a squad player Fair enough. He went to City as first choice, my bad. I repeat the final sentence of my post above.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsted Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Hoyed his toys a few times before the final break-up iirc, every time he got dropped. No malice though, it's a short career and he got properly shafted repeatedly. He had ambition and we didn't. Can't imagine he and Steve Harper are best buds like as they were rivals for the same job for so long, and just about equal for ages. It'd be daggers drawn and stick a bit of laxative in his protein shake if it were me. Not really No, he was a really good keeper and he saved our necks for years, and a nice bloke by all accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Boro As has been said, left when we needed him most and chased the money. Could have been a genuine legend but will be remembered as an idiotic Irish journeyman. Shame. Yep. Ruined his reputation at the only club who'll give a fuck about him once he hangs up his gloves. Aye, ruined it so much he got a good reception at Harpers testimonial. Who gives a fuck if he waited til the end of the window, we would never have bought a keeper anyway given Harper was there. It's almost as laughable as Bassong getting booed despite coming in for peanuts, doing a goodish job and being sold to a PL team after we went down for £8m. Getting on the same victim complex the board have anytime anyone leaves and the shady PR stories start slipping our pre/post move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 We got the best years of him tbf. Some truly fantastic performances over the years. Yes his exit was messy but I can't blame the guy for trying to win something. It's going to be a sad end to his career unfortunately, slumming it at the Boro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Boro As has been said, left when we needed him most and chased the money. Could have been a genuine legend but will be remembered as an idiotic Irish journeyman. Shame. Yep. Ruined his reputation at the only club who'll give a fuck about him once he hangs up his gloves. Aye, ruined it so much he got a good reception at Harpers testimonial. Who gives a fuck if he waited til the end of the window, we would never have bought a keeper anyway given Harper was there. It's almost as laughable as Bassong getting booed despite coming in for peanuts, doing a goodish job and being sold to a PL team after we went down for £8m. Getting on the same victim complex the board have anytime anyone leaves and the shady PR stories start slipping our pre/post move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Boro As has been said, left when we needed him most and chased the money. Could have been a genuine legend but will be remembered as an idiotic Irish journeyman. Shame. Yep. Ruined his reputation at the only club who'll give a fuck about him once he hangs up his gloves. Aye, ruined it so much he got a good reception at Harpers testimonial. Who gives a fuck if he waited til the end of the window, we would never have bought a keeper anyway given Harper was there. It's almost as laughable as Bassong getting booed despite coming in for peanuts, doing a goodish job and being sold to a PL team after we went down for £8m. Getting on the same victim complex the board have anytime anyone leaves and the shady PR stories start slipping our pre/post move. Nah, just him tbh. Players move on, that's par for the course, how and when then do it make a difference. He bailed out as soon as he saw the cash. Speaks volumes of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 He moved for a club looking to be arrowing in a upwards direction from one he'd been at for a decade that was rapidly declining out of his control. It left a bit of a sore spot like, but from a completely footballing point of view it made perfect sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Midds, how on earth do we know he was motivated by cash? I'm sure his head could've been turned a hundred times during his 2001-06 prime. There are frankly so many reasons an almost 33-year-old keeper would've left NUFC for MCFC at that point cash would probably be an afterthought to even the most ardent mercenary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bowlingcrofty Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 The only shame for me with Shay was he didn't stay til the end of the season. He would surely have made 1pt of difference and kept us up. Thing is for him, if he hadn't gone to Man City then then the opportunity would probably have gone by the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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