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Amir_9

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Homosexuality is a sin in Christianity.

 

Aye, but you tend not to face jail, stoning you to death or hanging.

 

There are lots of homosexuals in the middle east, some not so open, some VERY open especially in the United Arab Emirates. None of them face anything.

 

Some of you lot have a completely different view about the Middle East than how it really is. You'll be surprised how open other Arab countries are besides Saudi Arabia.

 

Qatar

 

same sex activity: illegal (fines, prison sentence up to 5 years)

 

You plan on having same sex in public then?

 

All these "sins" such as same sex activity and prostitution are done behind closed doors, nobody knowing a thing. Same with Alcohol, there is no lack of that in the Middle East never mind Qatar.

 

I want to be able to make it obvious i'm having same sex if i want to. Film it perhaps and not have to be terrified someone will find it. Regardless, you can't defend such laws.

 

Are you going to watch the world cup or film a gay porno?  :laugh:

Anyway I get your point, all im saying is that all these "sins" do take place but behind closed doors.

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Village Idiot

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Wonder what would happen if Israel qualified for the 2022 World Cup? Isn't Judism outlawed or something over there?

 

Israelis played in the Dubai Open last year and attended the WTO Summit in Dubai so I can't see it being a problem. Israel are gash these days anyways :lol:

 

Who knows in 12 years though... (which makes me think how weird it is that we are choosing a WC host for 12 years in the future, Qatar might as well be under the sea by then)

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johnnypd

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I'm not worried about the US getting it or not, as I'm sure they'll get '26, but I don't think this was the right time to go with Qatar. You had the US or Australia, even if they had conflicting stadiums, Australia have the money to make more. At this point, Qatar have the money to support this, despite being particularly small. But who f***ing knows in 2022? Look at the UAE, they were rich for a few years before going all out on tourism and going completely bankrupt. This is probably what will happen to Qatar. A small nation like that can only last so long spending so much money, the oil business can drastically change in the next twelve years as well with the reemergence of electrical cars. This was just not a safe pick at all, especially after picking two third world countries and one run by the mafia.

 

And I haven't even mentioned fans from around the world who don't want to be going to Brazil, Russia, or Qatar. Just so many factors make this a poor choice.

 

isnt China the big favourite for 2026? personally think china would be an amazing host and if they bid for it it would be just too big a temptation for fifa.

 

It can't go to the same confederation twice in a row so Qatar have basically scuppered China's bid :lol:

 

heh, forgot about that. mind, wouldnt be surprised for fifa to conveniently forget about the rules to help china bid.

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Amir_9

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Homosexuality is a sin in Christianity.

 

Aye, but you tend not to face jail, stoning you to death or hanging.

 

There are lots of homosexuals in the middle east, some not so open, some VERY open especially in the United Arab Emirates. None of them face anything.

 

 

Maybe you need to update wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_United_Arab_Emirates

 

Maybe you need to live in Emirates :)

 

You have to live somewhere to criticise it? Living in the UAE or not does not change this fact:

 

Article 177 of the Penal Code of Dubai imposes imprisonment of up to 10 years on consensual sodomy

In 2008 two women tourists were given a one-month jail sentence and then deported for engaging in public displays of affection while visiting a beach [8]. The trial, reportedly the first of its kind, prompted the police to create a special task force to combat homosexuality and other "indecent acts" from taking place on the beaches [9].

 

I've never seen anybody arrested in the UK for stealing a car, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

 

Unfortunately this sort of stuff is going to have to wait until its out of the public eye in the Middle East, thats the way it is, they aren't my rules. But honestly, is it something that really cannot wait until its not in public? And im talking about that incident you've linked me. Some people might see it distasteful, not me though.

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Aphrodite

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Wonder what would happen if Israel qualified for the 2022 World Cup? Isn't Judism outlawed or something over there?

 

Israelis played in the Dubai Open last year and attended the WTO Summit in Dubai so I can't see it being a problem. Israel are gash these days anyways :lol:

 

Who knows in 12 years though... (which makes me think how weird it is that we are choosing a WC host for 12 years in the future, Qatar might as well be under the sea by then)

 

Will probably be part of Iran by then :lol:

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I think Brazil are meant to be seriously behind compared to South Africa.  And they are already having to abandon a lot of was originally proposed.

 

I am sure they will get enough done to finish it and if not, it would more likely go to the US I think than Europe.

 

 

 

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Wonder what would happen if Israel qualified for the 2022 World Cup? Isn't Judism outlawed or something over there?

 

Israelis played in the Dubai Open last year and attended the WTO Summit in Dubai so I can't see it being a problem. Israel are gash these days anyways :lol:

 

Who knows in 12 years though... (which makes me think how weird it is that we are choosing a WC host for 12 years in the future, Qatar might as well be under the sea by then)

 

Well, FIFA knew Qatar would need that time to build a WC country and if they started building without having officially gotten it it'd be suspicious. O0

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Definite tactical voting. Get rid of England in the first round by voting for the country with no chance, then after getting rid of England by voting for Bel/Hol, switch to Russia.

 

Nail on head Mr Nut.

 

Why wouldn't they just vote for Russia in the first place?

 

cos then england would have more/equal votes than the netherlands/belgium and go through to the 2nd round. they're artificially inflating the bene bid to knock out england's.

 

Eh?

 

We'd have still had 2 and it doesn't matter what everyone else has, if one manages an overall majority.

 

I don't doubt that there was tactical voting going on, but this analysis of how it when on is obviously wrong.

 

huh? it's not about england's votes, it's about ensuring england comes bottom and therefore knocked out. by getting a couple of russia's voters to vote for the dutch it helps knock out england. the analysis of england's bid was always that they'd be a big threat in the later rounds, but that they might have difficulty getting there.

 

russia would not have gotten an overall majority in the first round if the 2 votes had gone their way instead, so they were tactically used to knock out england. that's the theory anyway, would be pretty hard to arrange in practice.

 

Perhaps, but like you say pretty much impossible to pull off, especially without perfect information about how everyone else was going to vote in each round. If they'd gone round asking everyone that then they'd have got caught. The big "mystery" here is how come we only got two votes, when the bid team say way more people promised to vote for us. Basically, we got one vote, seeing as Geoff Thompson surely voted for us, so a load of people seem to have taken the piss out of us.

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davy_fulla

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Isn't alcohol illegal in Qatar?

 

At the minute alcohol is legal but still frowned upon. The only 'bar' I bothered with when we were there a couple of months ago was in the hotel. It's illegeal to be drunk in public as well.  It's obviously more liberal than Saudi but not compared to Bahrain where they couldn't care less.

 

I definitely think it's a strange choice having it in an Islamic country where the laws are so strict compared to the rest of the world but I suppose FIFA are organising a tournament not a piss up.

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Foluwashola

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Isn't alcohol illegal in Qatar?

 

At the minute alcohol is legal but still frowned upon. The only 'bar' I bothered with when we were there a couple of months ago was in the hotel. It's illegeal to be drunk in public as well.  It's obviously more liberal than Saudi but not compared to Bahrain where they couldn't care less.

 

I definitely think it's a strange choice having it in an Islamic country where the laws are so strict compared to the rest of the world but I suppose FIFA are organising a tournament not a piss up.

 

Tournament should = piss up tbh.

 

I'm still angry like. 2 worst possible choices man  :weep:

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