Guest neesy111 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Australia and New Zealand will surely make a joint bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 you'd have to imagine china would put in a strong bid at some stage mind, right up FIFA's street as well taking it to china Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 The World Cup has outgrown Scandinavia even as a joint bid. There's only 2 stadiums over 40k in the whole Nordic region and none of them are more than 50. Norway didn't even want the Winter Olympics where we actually win stuff cause it's only Norwegians skiing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 The World Cup has outgrown Scandinavia even as a joint bid. There's only 2 stadiums over 40k in the whole Nordic region and none of them are more than 50. Forgot to mention how they're all shite footballing backwaters who are done at international competitions for the foreseeable future. Iceland excluding, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Australia and New Zealand will surely make a joint bid. Not likely because theres an uproar here over the government money that was wasted on the 2022 bid, which was a corrupt process. Also New Zealand compete in a different confederation so I dont think FIFA would allow it. I agree that the next Asian world cup will be in China, its the sensible place to have it and would be a fantastic world cup imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Still think Australia or USA will get the Qatar World Cup, a winter one is just not workable with all of the different associations and a summer one, well that's just impossible full stop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Since FIFA clearly has a preference for bringing the World Cup to new countries I think we're going to start seeing more and more joint bids. How about Scandinavia 2026 or a Central America 2040? What is this I don't even Sounds s***. The last Scandinavian World Cup was one of the best. Sounds ace tbh. Depths of winter would be good too. No Pele this time though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 The World Cup has outgrown Scandinavia even as a joint bid. There's only 2 stadiums over 40k in the whole Nordic region and none of them are more than 50. Forgot to mention how they're all shite footballing backwaters who are done at international competitions for the foreseeable future. Iceland excluding, obviously. Especially goes for Denmark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 you'd have to imagine china would put in a strong bid at some stage mind, right up FIFA's street as well taking it to china A chinese WC would be fantastic. The infrastructure is already in place, just need to order 100 million tons of fireworks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Since FIFA clearly has a preference for bringing the World Cup to new countries I think we're going to start seeing more and more joint bids. How about Scandinavia 2026 or a Central America 2040? What is this I don't even Sounds s***. The last Scandinavian World Cup was one of the best. Sounds ace tbh. Depths of winter would be good too. I'd fucking love there to be a Scandinavian World Cup. Their women are like ...enough to make a nigga like me go crazy. Whilst my dream of either England or Kenya (lol) hosting the World Cup looks nigh on impossible, I want FIFA to make this happen...please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 you'd have to imagine china would put in a strong bid at some stage mind, right up FIFA's street as well taking it to china A chinese WC would be fantastic. The infrastructure is already in place, just need to order 100 million tons of fireworks. amazed FIFA haven't pushed it themselves really, imagine the advertising revenues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Imagine the bribes and human rights violations, FIFA would be all over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Hoser Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Imagine the bribes and human rights violations, FIFA would be all over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30031405 what a shock....................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30031405 what a shock....................... Fucking hilarious that they do their own investigation on corruption. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 So basically, the only party to come under fire from FIFA is the English FA? F*ck me. Wish the FA had the guts to withdraw from Qatar. Sadly, principles are lacking in almost all quarters of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 So basically, the only party to come under fire from FIFA is the English FA? F*ck me. Wish the FA had the guts to withdraw from Qatar. FIFA honestly make me care less about international football every time they pipe up with something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30031405 what a shock....................... f***ing hilarious that they do their own investigation on corruption. "So are we corrupt then?" "Nah didn't think so" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I really, fervently wish we'd just walk away. I mean, clearly the ramifications would be enormous and far-reaching, but it would be a fantastic gesture . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I really, fervently wish we'd just walk away. I mean, clearly the ramifications would be enormous and far-reaching, but it would be a fantastic gesture . UEFA would come down on us as they are too far in FIFA's pockets, it would mean England out of the Euro's and no European football for our domestic clubs, no way the CL clubs would accept that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lincoln_imp Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I really, fervently wish we'd just walk away. I mean, clearly the ramifications would be enormous and far-reaching, but it would be a fantastic gesture . aye right. If the Germans walked away, it would be painted as a fantastic gesture, but if the English walked away, it would be painted as "arrogance" "racism" "stuck in the past" "colonial tendancies" "they think they are the centre of the world" and any other bollocks that gets spouted whenever the English do anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I really, fervently wish we'd just walk away. I mean, clearly the ramifications would be enormous and far-reaching, but it would be a fantastic gesture . Its a lose-lose proposition for both sides as far as profits are concerned, so that's never going to happen. However, it might end up becoming a good thing for the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2014/nov/07/north-koreans-working-state-sponsored-slaves-qatar Thousands of migrant labourers from North Korea are toiling for years on construction sites in Qatar for virtually no pay – including on the vast new metropolis that is the centrepiece of the World Cup – in what may amount to “state-sponsored slavery”. According to testimonies from workers and defectors, labourers from the reclusive state said they receive almost no salaries in person while in the Gulf emirate during the three years they typically spend there. They work in the expectation they will collect their earnings when they return to North Korea, but according to a series of testimonies from defectors and experts, workers receive as little as 10% of their salaries when they go home, and some may receive nothing. One North Korean worker at a construction site in central Doha told the Guardian: “We are here to earn foreign currency for our nation.” The North Korean regime, led by Kim Jong-un, is currently subject to international sanctions as it continues to defy calls to end its nuclear programme and address severe human rights abuses. A recent UN report accused the regime of crimes against humanity. The foreign currency earned by its overseas workforce is a crucial tool for propping up the isolated country’s fragile economy. In the sprawling construction zone that will eventually become Qatar’s gleaming $45bn (£28bn) Lusail City, where the 2022 World Cup final will be held, four construction sites are said to be using North Korean workers, although there is no suggestion they are involved in building World Cup stadiums. On one site, North Koreans battled biting desert sands and searing heat to construct a luxury residential tower. They laboured on as day turned to night, long after workers from other nationalities had left the site. One North Korean worker helping to build the high-rise said: “People like us don’t usually get paid. The money does not come to the person directly. It’s nothing to do with me, it’s the [North Korean recruitment] company’s business.” A project manager of the lavish development said the workers “don’t have a single rial themselves” and “borrow money from us if they need small things like cigarettes”. “The descriptions of the conditions North Korean workers endure in Qatar – abuse of vulnerability, withholding of wages and excessive overtime – are highly indicative of state-sponsored trafficking for forced labour,” a modern form of slavery, said Aidan McQuade, the director of Anti-Slavery International. Sources in Qatar estimate there may be as many as 3,000 North Koreans working on projects across the emirate. They are part of an army of workers the North Korean regime exports around the world to bring in much-needed foreign currency. According to defectors’ groups, there may be as many as 65,000 North Koreans abroad, mainly working in Russia, China, Mongolia and the Middle East. Kim Joo-il, a former army officer who escaped North Korea in 2005, estimates that the Pyongyang government typically takes 70% of the total salary of workers abroad, and that after all “fees”, notionally for food and accommodation, have been paid, workers will be left with only 10% of their salary. According to a report by the North Korea Strategy Centre, a defector-run organisation based in South Korea: “Almost all of the wages of the workers sent abroad are remitted back to Kim Jong-un’s regime … in very extreme cases, the workers are allowed to have 10% of their wages.” Two employees of state-run North Korean recruitment firms operating in Qatar admitted that their workers do not receive their salaries in person, but insisted a proportion of their wages are sent back to the workers’ families in North Korea. Earlier this year, in its annual Trafficking in Persons report, the US state department criticised the treatment of foreign workers sent to earn foreign currency by the regime. It said that many North Korean Workers were subject to forced labour, their movements and communications conducted under surveillance, and that they face threats of government reprisals if they attempt to escape or complain. “Workers’ salaries are deposited into accounts controlled by the North Korean government, which keeps most of the money … workers only receive a fraction of the money paid to the North Korean government for their work,” the report said. Qatar’s treatment of its migrant labourers has come under increasing scrutiny as it gears up for the 2022 World Cup, following a Guardian report last year that revealed widespread deaths and abuse among migrant workers. In May 2014 the emirate announced a series of reforms to improve their living and working conditions. A spokesperson from the ministry of labour and social affairs said: “We take all issues around worker payment extremely seriously. There are currently 2,800 North Korean guest workers registered in Qatar and we have no recorded complaints about their payment or treatment. Qatar is determined to continually improve labour conditions for all who work in the country, and will continue to work with NGOs, businesses and other governments to achieve this.” How fucking low can these guys get Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I'm not sure if anything FIFA does will surprise me anymore, but investigating yourself for corruption and making England out as the only party in the wrong is so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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