Guest thefishman Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 he wont last three months, then ashley will again say i was wrong i'll sell the club blah blah fuckin blah! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Serious point here. Imagine for a second that we'd had the results this year and last with a twattish character like Souness in charge. Would people be as fussed about the manager getting the boot? He got a lot of brownie points for being a decent man who conducted himself with dignity. It's still a results industry though and he failed to pick up many points this year against lower league sides, including some stinking results against our fellow promoted sides as well as Blackburn, Stoke and Wigan. #devilsadvocate This doesn't change objective reality. The nature of what occurred, and how it occurred. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Can we organise some sort of boycott of that butchers in Granger Market until the idiot who works there stops talking to the media? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Serious point here. Imagine for a second that we'd had the results this year and last with a twattish character like Souness in charge. Would people be as fussed about the manager getting the boot? He got a lot of brownie points for being a decent man who conducted himself with dignity. It's still a results industry though and he failed to pick up many points this year against lower league sides, including some stinking results against our fellow promoted sides as well as Blackburn, Stoke and Wigan. #devilsadvocate It's the fact that we've made a sideways step and the whole thing reeks of hypocricy. It's needlessly unsettled the club in every department at a pretty crucial point in the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I know what you mean. How dare a newly promoted team who spent fuck all in the summer not win every single game? How dare a manager bring stability to a fucking joke of a football club? How a the manager win promotion and the league at the first time of acting? How dare a manager bring together a bunch of passionless bellends who took us down and galvanise them into a fully functioning team who had the full backing and approval of most of the support? Shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I know what you mean. How dare a newly promoted team who spent fuck all in the summer not win every single game? How dare a manager bring stability to a fucking joke of a football club? How a the manager win promotion and the league at the first time of acting? How dare a manager bring together a bunch of passionless bellends who took us down and galvanise them into a fully functioning team who had the full backing and approval of most of the support? Shocking. Agreed [/Crumpy] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Serious point here. Imagine for a second that we'd had the results this year and last with a twattish character like Souness in charge. Would people be as fussed about the manager getting the boot? He got a lot of brownie points for being a decent man who conducted himself with dignity. It's still a results industry though and he failed to pick up many points this year against lower league sides, including some stinking results against our fellow promoted sides as well as Blackburn, Stoke and Wigan. #devilsadvocate Howay Otter, a results industry it is and it doesn't matter a jot where you get the points. To even think of sacking a manager because he hasn't won a particular set of games is just ridiculous and the fact it's being peddled as a reasonable reason for the decision (not by you) is utterly moronic imo. I don't see Moyes getting the bullet for a few results they've had that they "should have won", or Ancelotti for losing against sunderland (and being on a far worse run of form than us, which coincides with the boss losing his number two, funny that isn't it?), or Bruce for losing at Wolves or Redknapp for losing at home to Wigan or Wenger or losing against us and WBA... the list could go on and on and on. If football was played on paper, nobody would bother going. If football was played on paper, we'd be lower in the table than we are today. We're newly promoted and the arrogance of thinking we "should" be beating anybody at all (apart from maybe Blackpool given the spanking we gave them last year, but they are doing really well too) disappoints me. We're 12th and for me that's where the discussion should begin and end. Mike Ashley and his team of liars will try to perpetuate over the next few months that Hughton was taking regular kickings off the dregs in the league but here's a FACT cos Mike Ashley likes these. We have not lost to any one of the bottom seven and we've beaten three of them. FACT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Serious point here. Imagine for a second that we'd had the results this year and last with a twattish character like Souness in charge. Would people be as fussed about the manager getting the boot? He got a lot of brownie points for being a decent man who conducted himself with dignity. It's still a results industry though and he failed to pick up many points this year against lower Premier League sides, including some stinking results against our fellow promoted sides as well as Blackburn, Stoke and Wigan. #devilsadvocate Souness was paid a fortune and given a massive transfer budget by Shepherd. How does that compare with what Hughton achieved on a very limited budget? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Serious point here. Imagine for a second that we'd had the results this year and last with a twattish character like Souness in charge. Would people be as fussed about the manager getting the boot? He got a lot of brownie points for being a decent man who conducted himself with dignity. It's still a results industry though and he failed to pick up many points this year against lower Premier League sides, including some stinking results against our fellow promoted sides as well as Blackburn, Stoke and Wigan. #devilsadvocate Eh? Sick of that pathetic argument ffs. He has picked up points. How he does it is not a fucking concern of anyones. Who are you to say we wouldn't win the same amount of games in the next 5/6 months? If we were adrift at the bottom then this fucking ridiculous argument you idiots spout would be a fair one in favour of his dismissal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Souness was paid a fortune and given a massive transfer budget by Shepherd. How does that compare with what Hughton achieved on a very limited budget? It doesn't compare in any way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Serious point here. Imagine for a second that we'd had the results this year and last with a twattish character like Souness in charge. Would people be as fussed about the manager getting the boot? He got a lot of brownie points for being a decent man who conducted himself with dignity. It's still a results industry though and he failed to pick up many points this year against lower Premier League sides, including some stinking results against our fellow promoted sides as well as Blackburn, Stoke and Wigan. #devilsadvocate Souness was paid a fortune and given a massive transfer budget by Shepherd. How does that compare with what Hughton achieved on a very limited budget? And started off with a squad that had just finished 5th rather than a ragtag bunch of Premier League failures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Serious point here. Imagine for a second that we'd had the results this year and last with a twattish character like Souness in charge. Would people be as fussed about the manager getting the boot? He got a lot of brownie points for being a decent man who conducted himself with dignity. It's still a results industry though and he failed to pick up many points this year against lower Premier League sides, including some stinking results against our fellow promoted sides as well as Blackburn, Stoke and Wigan. #devilsadvocate Should Everton sack David Moyes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Im just trying to get my head round why he was sacked. As unreasonable as they are, they were grounds for ditching Hughton, the last two away games in particular were very very poor with levels of effort and application that were simply not acceptable. It's ruthless and his jettisoning is not something I agree with however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pont-toon Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 i like him i think he'll do well here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Serious point here. Imagine for a second that we'd had the results this year and last with a twattish character like Souness in charge. Would people be as fussed about the manager getting the boot? He got a lot of brownie points for being a decent man who conducted himself with dignity. It's still a results industry though and he failed to pick up many points this year against lower Premier League sides, including some stinking results against our fellow promoted sides as well as Blackburn, Stoke and Wigan. #devilsadvocate Souness was paid a fortune and given a massive transfer budget by Shepherd. How does that compare with what Hughton achieved on a very limited budget? And started off with a squad that had just finished 5th rather than a ragtag bunch of Premier League failures. and still had the money to spend £17m on a 25 yr old Michael Owen who would have preferred to be at Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Im just trying to get my head round why he was sacked. As unreasonable as they are, they were grounds for ditching Hughton, the last two away games in particular were very very poor with levels of effort and application that were simply not acceptable. It's ruthless and his jettisoning is not something I agree with however. I am absolutely sure that we would (and will) have games with very poor levels of effort and application in games under any manager you can care to mention. It's part and parcel of football, and in no way grounds to sack someone or every club would have ten managers a season. It's like context doesn't exist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Im just trying to get my head round why he was sacked. As unreasonable as they are, they were grounds for ditching Hughton, the last two away games in particular were very very poor with levels of effort and application that were simply not acceptable. It's ruthless and his jettisoning is not something I agree with however. There is no point trying to get your head round something that doesn't make any sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Im just trying to get my head round why he was sacked. As unreasonable as they are, they were grounds for ditching Hughton, the last two away games in particular were very very poor with levels of effort and application that were simply not acceptable. It's ruthless and his jettisoning is not something I agree with however. The deal for Pardew was being done at least a month before and I don't believe results had the slightest thing to do with it. Two games is not in any way acceptable grounds for ditching any manager imo, especially Hughton with a squad as thin as ours, several key players out and no money. I think Kevin Nolan was quoted in the summer as saying "we'll take some tonkings in the Premier League." I think he was sacked because he had grown in stature and decided wasn't prepared to be a yes-man (if he ever was, he is certainly painted as one from some quarters). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Fuck me with a rusty hammer. 5 and a fucking half years? Seriously? He's not going after a year. He's here for a while. Ashley won't pay out the fucking money to that extent to get rid of him So depressed I havn't bothered reading up on the press conference or any of the news since getting home from work. Just don't want it to be real still EDIT: Just remembered that no compensation clause if sacked. So it's a moot point anyway. Still can't see him going anytime soon :( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Serious point here. Imagine for a second that we'd had the results this year and last with a twattish character like Souness in charge. Would people be as fussed about the manager getting the boot? He got a lot of brownie points for being a decent man who conducted himself with dignity. It's still a results industry though and he failed to pick up many points this year against lower Premier League sides, including some stinking results against our fellow promoted sides as well as Blackburn, Stoke and Wigan. #devilsadvocate You serious? Comparing Hughton and Souness as men and their actions while at the club and saying you can't see the difference? The point's made in your own post, Souness was a twattish character, a bully who picked apart the best of our club. Hughton is a gentleman who oversaw a renaissance given the circumstances he inherited (and has obviously had to work under throughout). Souness couldn't have got this year and last's results BECAUSE HE'S A TWAT. That's his single biggest failing as a manager. Like others have said, stop trying to make sense of this situation because it's senseless. Decent posters like yourself who really try to will get dragged down to Ashley and Llambias' bizarro world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Can we organise some sort of boycott of that butchers in Granger Market until the idiot who works there stops talking to the media? Which one you on about? The bald guy or the other one that spoke? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 just boycott the Grainger Market in general. Hector Hall's fruit and veg is fucking rotten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kenton Magpie Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Disgusted by this news, honestly cant figure out what the fuck is going on in Ashleys head, fuck all this rubbish about needing to support the lads (even though it isnt down to them) but i wont spend another penny to attend games, buy replica shirts and shit and buy in or attend Shearer's for that matter untill this cancer has left our club for good. Thanks a lot you fat prick for making me make one of the toughest decisons of my life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 This has to go down as one of the most baffling decisions in the history of the premier league? Other than the Man Utd board allowing the Glazers to buy the club with money borrowed against its value, I struggle to think of any boardroom action that has made as little sense as this one. The Souness appointment was a total joke but at least the guy had won something meaningful in his managerial career. That obviously doesn't justify if because anyone with half a brain could see it was a massive error, but this is a whole new level of retarded. Mike Ashley, you may think you are a football expert but in actually fact you are a clueless fuckwit! You got lucky once with Hughton but it's not going to happen this time. You have royally dry bummed this football club and made yourself a national laughing stock. A big round of applause for you, you absolute mong! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I keep thinking this is some kind of joke.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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