Beren Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 As I alluded to, maybe I'm missing a sanguine prefix before my username Nut, but I struggle to share your optimism! Not because I think we don't have some cracking players, and some exceptionally promising youths... but because I don't think I can really get excited about Newcastle again with Ashley at the helm - perhaps because on some level, I was naive enough to get excited by the core Hughton had put together leading up to Christmas last year! I really did think even if we built gradually on what we had, we would be pushing for Europe within a season or so. Now, we are left with thoughts of what might have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 As I alluded to, maybe I'm missing a sanguine prefix before my username Nut, but I struggle to share your optimism! Not because I think we don't have some cracking players, and some exceptionally promising youths... but because I don't think I can really get excited about Newcastle again with Ashley at the helm - perhaps because on some level, I was naive enough to get excited by the core Hughton had put together leading up to Christmas last year! I really did think even if we built gradually on what we had, we would be pushing for Europe within a season or so. Now, we are left with thoughts of what might have been. Pretty much agree. With Hughton's core, I was actually very proud of the team and had big hopes for a future filled with players who loved and cared for the club. As you say, I'm very much left with a thought of what could have been Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 We'll probably flit between upper and lower mid-table for a couple of years (which let's face it is where we've pretty much been since Sir Bobby left anyway), I reckon we ride it out because I can see good things from us in a few years. We've still got some cracking players here, some very promising youths coming through, I reckon we can progress Sounds like a great opportunity for a quality manager - mid table club in the Premiership is one of the best managerial jobs in the world you can ask for, especially one with such a promising future. Finances are great, every manager should expect to lose their better players if stupid bids come in, when replacing them transfer spend doesn't matter as long as the team is improved on paper. Doesn't quite fit in with: The day Pardew leaves under Ashley is the day we well and truly are f***ed imo, because at least he came in knowing what to expect. Nobody better than Pardew would in these circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 You think someone better than Pardew would work with Ashley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I cant get excited by us because If any of our players have a really good season and we get a high bid we will nearly certainly sell.Im dreading the thoughts of Tiote leaving us :-[ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 You think someone better than Pardew would work with Ashley? No, but I don't see why you don't as you largely agree with his strategy and most of his decisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Where did I say that here? I said as things stand this is the best situation. No one better will come in an accept it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I’m amazed people are still gullible enough to fall for anything which comes out of this bullshitter anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I’m amazed people are still gullible enough to fall for anything which comes out of this bullshitter anymore. What would you like us to do instead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Pardew's getting played the same way Keegan, Hughton and JFK were played. LLiambas: /places hand over phone receiver and giggles. "Alan wants to know how much money he has to spend." Ashley: /looks thoughtful, passes gas. "Tell him we have more tarmac to do and a couple more bore holes there some left in the kitty but I don't have a firm figure yet" /giggles LLiambas: /laughs hysterically, wipes tears from eyes "Kevin, err, Chris, oh wait haha...Alan, we have the accounting dept working on an audit now. You and Graham find some more targets and we'll let you knwp when we can get them. Try for Erdinc one more time. Yeeessss I know he doesn't want to come but hey you never know! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 What would you like us to do instead? The only thing that I can do is ignore him where possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Where did I say that here? I said as things stand this is the best situation. No one better will come in an accept it. As far as I can tell you agree with most of Ashley's important decisions and strategy for running the club, ie cutting the wage bill, minimal transfer spend or making a profit, targeting "good value" players only (out of contract/last year of contract/not wanted by club/trying to leave club), selling Carroll & Nolan, putting Barton on the transfer list, the way Enrique's new contract has been handled. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I've seen you arguing in favour of all of them. I'm sure you've done so, but off the top of my head I can't remember you being critical of Ashley on anything specific at all (nothing that would be relevant to a manager anyhow). I don't like the man one bit, but saying that, decisions wise over the last 2 years there's not much I'd have done different. You seem to think Pardew is having to do nothing that managers of other clubs don't have to do, and isn't having to put up with decisions being made over his head that managers of other clubs don't have to. So, as I said, if you generally agree with the way Ashley is running the club, and think it is heading in the right direction with a bright future, what exactly is it that makes you say no manager better than Pardew would take the job? Why would these managers not see it was a good job to have? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Fair point UV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 CaulkinTheTimesGeorge Caulkin Alan Pardew calls for #Nufc board to release cash & end strife: http://t.co/LVZSlYk (subscribers) 5 minutes agoFavoriteRetweetReply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 CaulkinTheTimesGeorge Caulkin Alan Pardew calls for #Nufc board to release cash & end strife: http://t.co/LVZSlYk (subscribers) 5 minutes agoFavoriteRetweetReply For non-subscribers, see the Telegraph article lately mentioned in other threads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 CaulkinTheTimesGeorge Caulkin Alan Pardew calls for #Nufc board to release cash & end strife: http://t.co/LVZSlYk (subscribers) 5 minutes agoFavoriteRetweetReply For non-subscribers, see the Telegraph article lately mentioned in other threads. I didn't see them , have now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Pardew's getting played the same way Keegan, Hughton and JFK were played. LLiambas: /places hand over phone receiver and giggles. "Alan wants to know how much money he has to spend." Ashley: /looks thoughtful, passes gas. "Tell him we have more tarmac to do and a couple more bore holes there some left in the kitty but I don't have a firm figure yet" /giggles LLiambas: /laughs hysterically, wipes tears from eyes "Kevin, err, Chris, oh wait haha...Alan, we have the accounting dept working on an audit now. You and Graham find some more targets and we'll let you knwp when we can get them. Try for Erdinc one more time. Yeeessss I know he doesn't want to come but hey you never know! Keegan did actually scoff recently at the idea that Pardew would be given any money to spend. I can't believe Ashley would be so stupid as to rubber stamp Keegan's view by failing to back his own preferred choice as manager with any investment. It's not even as if he has to buy the players Pardew wants. Just buy the players your scouts want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkzter Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Pardew is getting fucked over big time. He must be a fool to think it wouldn't happen after all the previous evidence with past managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Wonder if the pennies dropped yet with Pardew as he gets a right old shafting or are we talking a bit early about his frustration and the next few weeks will see a change by the board to curtail a mutiny by players,fans and the boss .Sorry guys for looking through rose tinted glasses but i really want to believe that a crisis doesnt exist and all this is a bad dream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkzter Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Wonder if the pennies dropped yet with Pardew as he gets a right old shafting or are we talking a bit early about his frustration and the next few weeks will see a change by the board to curtail a mutiny by players,fans and the boss .Sorry guys for looking through rose tinted glasses but i really want to believe that a crisis doesnt exist and all this is a bad dream Admire your positiveness but I'm pretty convinced it is all going wrong for Nufc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Wonder if the pennies dropped yet with Pardew as he gets a right old shafting or are we talking a bit early about his frustration and the next few weeks will see a change by the board to curtail a mutiny by players,fans and the boss .Sorry guys for looking through rose tinted glasses but i really want to believe that a crisis doesnt exist and all this is a bad dream At least for us we can see that our frustration with the club is being noticed and things might change. I doubt anything would have changed if we all just bought into the shit that comes out of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wallace Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I guess it is a new experience for Pardew the way Tyneside slumps into a massive depression when we start fretting about what is happening at the club. I also think he will be very uncomfortable with the criticism being thrown in his direction as he strikes me as someone who wants to be liked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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