TRon Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 That's a good interview by Pardew but I feel sorry for the bloke. He has held the corner well for his bosses but it's time they showed him similar support and give him the players he needs. I don't really care how it's done, which wage structures are flexed or which shitface agents are bunged. Just fucking do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 He's either being fucked over just like those before him, or he's an even more convincing liar than I had realised. Basically begging them in public to spend some money. So which is it, 'wait and see, we'll definitely sign some top players' fans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Amuzing to see him seemingly so exasperated. Hughton was brought in basically as a yes-man, a humble guy who wouldn't cause waves. But even that wasn't good enough, he ended up creating a team where players were too closely knit for Ashley's liking, so then we bring in one of Ashley's mates from the casino. And now even he's sounding sick of the two of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cr4igora Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Amuzing to see him seemingly so exasperated. Hughton was brought in basically as a yes-man, a humble guy who wouldn't cause waves. But even that wasn't good enough, he ended up creating a team where players were too closely knit for Ashley's liking, so then we bring in one of Ashley's mates from the casino. And now even he's sounding sick of the two of them. Do you reckon there is anyone on this planet who could take the job of Newcastle United Manager and not end up feeling that way towards them? I reckon not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I was "just following orders/relaying what I was told" is a terrible excuse. His complicity in being a doormat/tool of Ashley's, IMO, is all compounded by that first quote of his. The way Ashley runs the club, he's exactly what we need though (if that makes sense). It's no good a manager coming in wanting to stamp his authority because he'll not last five-minutes. Our best bet short-term at least unless we get taken over is with things as they are. The day Pardew leaves under Ashley is the day we well and truly are f***ed imo, because at least he came in knowing what to expect. Nobody better than Pardew would in these circumstances. i think the day pardew leaves is the day ashley might go a very very small way to accepting that he cant run a football club the way he is attempting and therefore either sell at a lower price or re-think what he's doing. so i'm all for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I was "just following orders/relaying what I was told" is a terrible excuse. His complicity in being a doormat/tool of Ashley's, IMO, is all compounded by that first quote of his. The way Ashley runs the club, he's exactly what we need though (if that makes sense). It's no good a manager coming in wanting to stamp his authority because he'll not last five-minutes. Our best bet short-term at least unless we get taken over is with things as they are. The day Pardew leaves under Ashley is the day we well and truly are f***ed imo, because at least he came in knowing what to expect. Nobody better than Pardew would in these circumstances. i think the day pardew leaves is the day ashley might go a very very small way to accepting that he cant run a football club the way he is attempting and therefore either sell at a lower price or re-think what he's doing. so i'm all for it. No chance. Nut is right, Pardew is working in the best way that any manager can work with Ashley. Doing his best to deal with the questions in public and (hopefully) putting as much pressure as he can on him behind the scenes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Not see the following bit in any other articles yet: Sportsmail understands Barton’s frustrations boiled over after discussions with team-mates about some of the incidents that have happened during pre-season and, significantly, Pardew admitted that preparations for the new campaign have not gone as he would have planned. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2022594/Alan-Pardew-speaks-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-Joet-Barton-Twitter-fiasco.html That's a bit different to him throwing a wobbler because he couldn't take set pieces. pardew's just admitted that they 'saw the problems coming' regarding barton and the usa trip. that's fucking ridiculous, they shouldnt be going on a pre-season trip without one of the best players. yes it's his own fault for ending up in jail but we are where we are and we should be together as a team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I was "just following orders/relaying what I was told" is a terrible excuse. His complicity in being a doormat/tool of Ashley's, IMO, is all compounded by that first quote of his. The way Ashley runs the club, he's exactly what we need though (if that makes sense). It's no good a manager coming in wanting to stamp his authority because he'll not last five-minutes. Our best bet short-term at least unless we get taken over is with things as they are. The day Pardew leaves under Ashley is the day we well and truly are f***ed imo, because at least he came in knowing what to expect. Nobody better than Pardew would in these circumstances. i think the day pardew leaves is the day ashley might go a very very small way to accepting that he cant run a football club the way he is attempting and therefore either sell at a lower price or re-think what he's doing. so i'm all for it. No chance. Nut is right, Pardew is working in the best way that any manager can work with Ashley. Doing his best to deal with the questions in public and (hopefully) putting as much pressure as he can on him behind the scenes. no chance what? we're never going anywhere with ashley. if pardew leaving makes ashley accept he cant just hang around, turn us profit making and fuck the club up the arse with a red and blue dildo with sportsdirect.com on it then i cant wait until he's had enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I was "just following orders/relaying what I was told" is a terrible excuse. His complicity in being a doormat/tool of Ashley's, IMO, is all compounded by that first quote of his. The way Ashley runs the club, he's exactly what we need though (if that makes sense). It's no good a manager coming in wanting to stamp his authority because he'll not last five-minutes. Our best bet short-term at least unless we get taken over is with things as they are. The day Pardew leaves under Ashley is the day we well and truly are f***ed imo, because at least he came in knowing what to expect. Nobody better than Pardew would in these circumstances. i think the day pardew leaves is the day ashley might go a very very small way to accepting that he cant run a football club the way he is attempting and therefore either sell at a lower price or re-think what he's doing. so i'm all for it. No chance. Nut is right, Pardew is working in the best way that any manager can work with Ashley. Doing his best to deal with the questions in public and (hopefully) putting as much pressure as he can on him behind the scenes. no chance what? we're never going anywhere with ashley. if pardew leaving makes ashley accept he cant just hang around, turn us profit making and fuck the club up the arse with a red and blue dildo with sportsdirect.com on it then i cant wait until he's had enough. No chance that Ashley would leave any sooner if Pardew went. IMO of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Not see the following bit in any other articles yet: Sportsmail understands Bartons frustrations boiled over after discussions with team-mates about some of the incidents that have happened during pre-season and, significantly, Pardew admitted that preparations for the new campaign have not gone as he would have planned. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2022594/Alan-Pardew-speaks-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-Joet-Barton-Twitter-fiasco.html That's a bit different to him throwing a wobbler because he couldn't take set pieces. pardew's just admitted that they 'saw the problems coming' regarding barton and the usa trip. that's f***ing ridiculous, they shouldnt be going on a pre-season trip without one of the best players. yes it's his own fault for ending up in jail but we are where we are and we should be together as a team. Load of rubbish that like. So our whole pre-season plans should revolve around Barton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Our whole pre-season plans should revolve around getting all of our players fit and playing together, we've failed massively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Be interesting to see how he does in his full season in charge. By choice, or force of hand, it looks like he's going to have to rely on some of the youngsters. Could go terribly wrong, could unearth some new talent, but either way at least we're going to give them a chance. That's always been my biggest criticism of past managers, they never had the conviction and confidence to give youth a chance. Even when we were clear in the Championship we never gave it a go. For all the stick Dalglish gets, at least he had the balls to give youth a go last season and typical to Liverpool the spawny gits turned out to be OK. Recent managers, maybe not. But Ossie Ardiles (unwisely, as it turned out) staked his whole strategy on young players, many of whom (Watson, Clarkie, Elliott etc) went on to become key players for Keegan. To be fair Ossie didn't really have much choice. Ossie had little choice as i remember watching the Toon then and it was nearly a youth team week in week out with no money at all to spend .A normally run football club as in not taking wages and fees etc into account in the same financial situation as ourselves could or would reinvest that £35 million on transfer fees ,i am not saying spend it all just do it the normal way . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 T he thought of Pards on the edge If he has to take his frustrations out on something there won't a wife safe anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 The first sincere interview he has given. Lets hope this is genuine and he gets the support to sort it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Ashley: "Alan, welcome to the club. You will have no say over the purchase or sale of any player nor over the offering of new contracts. In fact its safe to say you will have no influence over matters of anything above team level. But you will have to talk to the press to justify every decision we make, good or bad. Please tell the fans our best players are not for sale. Oh, and you might have a bit of trouble initially because the guy we’ve just sacked was pretty popular with the fans and the players. Any questions?" Pardew: "When can I start?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 It has to be a nightmare being the club spokesman. Even at the opening press conference after his appointment he was stuck out there all on his own. In the mean time the man who apparently runs the club, the sly creep Llambias, skulks around in the shadows and hangs the bloke out to dry. AP has supported the board and he now needs some support. Let's see it. I know some on here say he deserves any crap he gets for being part of a conspiracy to oust Hughton. But I don't buy that, he didn't make the decision to sack Hughton. He was offered a job and took it. I also think he's a better manager than Hughton but that's another issue I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 The first sincere interview he has given. Don't fall for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Is there a good article that summarizes what Pardew says? Looked through the thread but can't seem to find one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Is there a good article that summarizes what Pardew says? Looked through the thread but can't seem to find one. Look on the SSN website. He was brilliant, btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Our whole pre-season plans should revolve around getting all of our players fit and playing together, we've failed massively. Yep, as I've said before, worst pre season for a long, long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/08/05/newcastle-manager-pardew-keeping-his-cool-72703-29181664/ When asked if he felt like walking away, Pardew laughed off such talk and seemed focused and as hungry as ever. He told the Chronicle: “This is a club which unfortunately, because of where we are financially, is vulnerable to the big clubs. “We need to change that, and I have said in three or four years time, with careful rebuilding and hopefully keeping our younger players, we can do that. Only time will tell.” Woop woop, another plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/08/05/newcastle-manager-pardew-keeping-his-cool-72703-29181664/ When asked if he felt like walking away, Pardew laughed off such talk and seemed focused and as hungry as ever. He told the Chronicle: “This is a club which unfortunately, because of where we are financially, is vulnerable to the big clubs. “We need to change that, and I have said in three or four years time, with careful rebuilding and hopefully keeping our younger players, we can do that. Only time will tell.” Woop woop, another plan. Three/four year plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Get in, that means we're 2 years down the 5 year plan. Almost there lads almost there. End of the 5 years we should have no good players left and no wage bill. Then the big clubs can't touch us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 The 30 second plan followed by the next 30 second plan and so on and on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Because of where we are financially? What can he mean by that? Because Ashley had to pump in loads of cash we're going to sell anything that moves for the next four years? What a crock of shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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