Ryan_Taylor Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 So 'Oi you Geordie cants, we're facking going with the facking Wigan Athletic level of expectation. Deal with it you facking mag wankers' Cheers Alan... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Sovereign states He's talking about Liverpool of course, in much greater debt than us. Bloke is such a complete knob. Fucking detest the twat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 why arent we allowed the same expectations as other clubs with similar fan base, and revenue streams? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Sovereign states He's talking about Liverpool of course, in much greater debt than us. Bloke is such a complete knob. f***ing detest the t***. they've got someone to back their debt and keep going, we haven't, not too sure i'd be comfortable with it either. been here before haven't we ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I am a pardew sympathiser Gone down in my estimations today. Selling Jose without replacement is inexcusable it's not like we were short if cash Or were we Wankers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Sovereign states He's talking about Liverpool of course, in much greater debt than us. Bloke is such a complete knob. Fucking detest the twat. It's even worse when you think about the way the bloke that he replaced was shafted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 A few key injuries to starters revealing the inadequacies of the squad and some early poor performances and he'll really feel it from the fans. He's in a job he wouldn't normally have got, I think he actually means well but he has to pathetically tow the line of those above him and it's making him look so so plastic at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 He's a coach and little more. Can't blame him for any off the field business whatsoever. In his current position, I think he's a good coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11678_7093913,00.html Pardew urges Toon rethink Magpies manager feels some still need to adjust expectations By Ben Collins. Last Updated: August 11, 2011 5:51pm Pardew: Admits Newcastle are no longer the spending club they were Manager Alan Pardew has stressed that Newcastle United must re-evaluate their status as a club. Pardew has had to get his head round various contractual issues from the previous regime, which have resulted in potentially both Jose Enrique and Joey Barton leaving the club cheaply. Newcastle fans and some high-profile players have grown increasingly frustrated at the lack of a big-name striker being signed following Andy Carroll's £35million move to Liverpool in January. But gone are the days of Newcastle splashing the cash, with modest signings such as Yohan Cabaye, Demba Ba, Sylvain Marveaux, Mehdi Abeid and Gabriel Obertan reflecting owner Mike Ashley's new prudent approach. And Pardew admits that is something everyone involved with the club will have to get used to. "Some of the problems I have inherited that have gone on before haven't made it easy, and I have picked up some history of what has gone on in contract negotiations et cetera," he said. New understanding "It's very, very important that we try to build a new understanding of the club going forward together. "It's documented that the club needs to be sustainable from its own funds, and that put us in a category of clubs that probably we are not used to being in. "Maybe 10 years ago, we would be able to rival the Arsenals and Manchester Citys and Chelseas of this world in terms of transfers. "But that looks difficult at the moment until such times as we grow the club and show on the pitch that we can bring some success, then hopefully keep our better players and build on that. "Unfortunately, the business of this Premier League makes it difficult. These top clubs can come and grab our players and until such time as we are financially strong enough to hold off sovereign states, we are going to have a problem." Enrique medical Enrique headed to Merseyside on Thursday to discuss personal terms and undergo a medical with Liverpool. Having had to admit defeat in his bid to keep hold of Carroll in January, Pardew had signalled his intention to tie up Enrique, Barton and Kevin Nolan to long-term deals. But both Enrique and Barton rejected the terms on offer while Nolan dropped down a division to join West Ham this summer. Asked about the Enrique situation, Pardew added: "He was in the last year of his contract and he made it clear he didn't really have any motivation to re-sign here. "He's got the move he wanted and we have to move on, and we will." I would sack him just for those very defeatist and patronising comments alone. Those comments clearly prove he is just a puppet, any self respecting manager in charge of a club with 53,000 fans, a club that generates over 100m in turn over, a club which can attract top players, a club with a good reputation abroad, would never come out with crap like that. Big clubs cherry picking our better players Alan, like West Ham you mean? We are being outspent by the entire league. Stoke are outspending us. The mackems. Villa. Clubs who do not generate the money we do. I am not buying this wage reinvestment carry on regarding the Carroll money either and the fact Pardew keeps spouting it shows what he thinks of the supporters - he must think we are all idiots. The money the club generates via tickets, sponsorship, TV money etc. is more than enough to pay for the wages of its players. That Carroll money was a windfall, free money almost and every single penny should be spent on players. Not players and their wages and turf and tarmac but players in terms of transfer fees. Pardew is complicet in the mismanagement of our club and for that he does not get my support and I cannot wait for the day he and all the other tossers from the owner to some of the players leave our magnificent club because they are not worthy. As for the bit in bold Alan... you get success by keeping your better players and brining in equally better players not by fucking selling them and not spending money you fucking idiot. Honestly I've had enough of his patter and his lies. You're a championship manager at best Pardew, a fucking liar and a bell end of a bloke, please fuck off from my club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Can't sack him for saying what he's been told to say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Just watched his pre-match presser. He came across very calm actually. I dunno, i'd imagine we are talking to players. He's very confident about getting the two in (striker and lb).Its obviously a piss take we dont have a LB in for Saturday, but as long as we get them in, we should still be looking fairly solid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Well I stated i'd judge him on his own signings and start of the season and if it's well below average he'll be driven out in no time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Bad result at SJP on Saturday and at Sunderland and I think he's going to come under serious pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11678_7093913,00.html Pardew urges Toon rethink Magpies manager feels some still need to adjust expectations By Ben Collins. Last Updated: August 11, 2011 5:51pm Pardew: Admits Newcastle are no longer the spending club they were Manager Alan Pardew has stressed that Newcastle United must re-evaluate their status as a club. Pardew has had to get his head round various contractual issues from the previous regime, which have resulted in potentially both Jose Enrique and Joey Barton leaving the club cheaply. Newcastle fans and some high-profile players have grown increasingly frustrated at the lack of a big-name striker being signed following Andy Carroll's £35million move to Liverpool in January. But gone are the days of Newcastle splashing the cash, with modest signings such as Yohan Cabaye, Demba Ba, Sylvain Marveaux, Mehdi Abeid and Gabriel Obertan reflecting owner Mike Ashley's new prudent approach. And Pardew admits that is something everyone involved with the club will have to get used to. "Some of the problems I have inherited that have gone on before haven't made it easy, and I have picked up some history of what has gone on in contract negotiations et cetera," he said. New understanding "It's very, very important that we try to build a new understanding of the club going forward together. "It's documented that the club needs to be sustainable from its own funds, and that put us in a category of clubs that probably we are not used to being in. "Maybe 10 years ago, we would be able to rival the Arsenals and Manchester Citys and Chelseas of this world in terms of transfers. "But that looks difficult at the moment until such times as we grow the club and show on the pitch that we can bring some success, then hopefully keep our better players and build on that. "Unfortunately, the business of this Premier League makes it difficult. These top clubs can come and grab our players and until such time as we are financially strong enough to hold off sovereign states, we are going to have a problem." Enrique medical Enrique headed to Merseyside on Thursday to discuss personal terms and undergo a medical with Liverpool. Having had to admit defeat in his bid to keep hold of Carroll in January, Pardew had signalled his intention to tie up Enrique, Barton and Kevin Nolan to long-term deals. But both Enrique and Barton rejected the terms on offer while Nolan dropped down a division to join West Ham this summer. Asked about the Enrique situation, Pardew added: "He was in the last year of his contract and he made it clear he didn't really have any motivation to re-sign here. "He's got the move he wanted and we have to move on, and we will." I would sack him just for those very defeatist and patronising comments alone. Those comments clearly prove he is just a puppet, any self respecting manager in charge of a club with 53,000 fans, a club that generates over 100m in turn over, a club which can attract top players, a club with a good reputation abroad, would never come out with crap like that. Big clubs cherry picking our better players Alan, like West Ham you mean? We are being outspent by the entire league. Stoke are outspending us. The mackems. Villa. Clubs who do not generate the money we do. I am not buying this wage reinvestment carry on regarding the Carroll money either and the fact Pardew keeps spouting it shows what he thinks of the supporters - he must think we are all idiots. The money the club generates via tickets, sponsorship, TV money etc. is more than enough to pay for the wages of its players. That Carroll money was a windfall, free money almost and every single penny should be spent on players. Not players and their wages and turf and tarmac but players in terms of transfer fees. Pardew is complicet in the mismanagement of our club and for that he does not get my support and I cannot wait for the day he and all the other tossers from the owner to some of the players leave our magnificent club because they are not worthy. As for the bit in bold Alan... you get success by keeping your better players and brining in equally better players not by f***ing selling them and not spending money you f***ing idiot. Honestly I've had enough of his patter and his lies. You're a championship manager at best Pardew, a f***ing liar and a bell end of a bloke, please f*** off from my club. The clocks ticking for this wanker and his best option would be to shut the fuck up. Cant trust a word any of them say and he's incapable of finding a first choice striker in 8 months. Just fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 It won't be long before the fans turn on him and then he'll realise what a plonker he's been in bowing down to the board's demands without much of a fight. He started to go down in my estimation a long time ago now. (Ok... early pre-season.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Fuck sake i miss Hughton's interviews and press conferences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Bad result at SJP on Saturday and at Sunderland and I think he's going to come under serious pressure. Alternativley, we could start well and people will wonder what all the huffing and puffing was for?? Just another take on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 why arent we allowed the same expectations as other clubs with similar fan base, and revenue streams? This is what annoys me the most about all. We're being told that we can't compete with the transfers of Chelsea, Man City and Arsenal but we're not competing with them so why would we? Why not talk about why we aren't competing financially with Villa, Sunderland, Wolves etc as they're the teams we're in with? Also I assume everyone has noticed how the "our finances are really bad" talk has conveniently gone into overdrive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pedro_de_geordieo Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 They are clearly trying to knock us down regarding our expectations, that's clear. I ask the question do they seriously think that they could get 52k every week to go and watch a group of no hopers with the best chance of finishing 10th every season? I think not. Hope and expectation is what drives us on to do better every season and to be better than our neighbors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 They are clearly trying to knock us down regarding our expectations, that's clear. I ask the question do they seriously think that they could get 52k every week to go and watch a group of no hopers with the best chance of finishing 10th every season? I think not. Hope and expectation is what drives us on to do better every season and to be better than our neighbors. Very true that. What I will say though is that he's not said much wrong in terms of where we are at the mo. Aside from Cunterpool, Chelsea, Manure, City and perhaps Arsenal, there's a huge gulf in terms of appeal and spending power and unfortunately it's gotten bigger over the past few years. We can't compete with that at the mo. What we can do, however, is push them as far as we can on the field, and frankly the events of this summer have maintained that divide between fans and players and owners that will present a major barrier to us achieving that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Well said, HTT, couldn't agree more. As soon as I read those words from Pardew, it basically came across as Ashley saying "we're not spending the Carroll money - deal with it". He seems hell-bent on turning this magnificent club, and the mentality of the fans into a pie and chips, defeatist club from top to bottom and I for one will never accept him, or his tosser mates being here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudwiser Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 f*** sake i miss Hughton's interviews and press conferences. Aye, they were on a different planet in every respect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pedro_de_geordieo Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 They are clearly trying to knock us down regarding our expectations, that's clear. I ask the question do they seriously think that they could get 52k every week to go and watch a group of no hopers with the best chance of finishing 10th every season? I think not. Hope and expectation is what drives us on to do better every season and to be better than our neighbors. Very true that. What I will say though is that he's not said much wrong in terms of where we are at the mo. Aside from Cunterpool, Chelsea, Manure, City and perhaps Arsenal, there's a huge gulf in terms of appeal and spending power and unfortunately it's gotten bigger over the past few years. We can't compete with that at the mo. What we can do, however, is push them as far as we can on the field, and frankly the events of this summer have maintained that divide between fans and players and owners that will present a major barrier to us achieving that. It all comes down to how much he wants to put in and allow Newcastle United push for a European or CL place. He has got the money to invest he just doesn't want to do it simple as. "BILLIONAIRE Toon owner Mike Ashley has been named as the 655th richest person in the world, according to wealth magazine Forbes. The reclusive 50-year-old tycoon is recorded as having a £1bn ($1.5bn) fortune, earned on the back of his sporting goods empire". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11678_7093913,00.html Pardew urges Toon rethink Magpies manager feels some still need to adjust expectations By Ben Collins. Last Updated: August 11, 2011 5:51pm Pardew: Admits Newcastle are no longer the spending club they were Manager Alan Pardew has stressed that Newcastle United must re-evaluate their status as a club. Pardew has had to get his head round various contractual issues from the previous regime, which have resulted in potentially both Jose Enrique and Joey Barton leaving the club cheaply. Newcastle fans and some high-profile players have grown increasingly frustrated at the lack of a big-name striker being signed following Andy Carroll's £35million move to Liverpool in January. But gone are the days of Newcastle splashing the cash, with modest signings such as Yohan Cabaye, Demba Ba, Sylvain Marveaux, Mehdi Abeid and Gabriel Obertan reflecting owner Mike Ashley's new prudent approach. And Pardew admits that is something everyone involved with the club will have to get used to. "Some of the problems I have inherited that have gone on before haven't made it easy, and I have picked up some history of what has gone on in contract negotiations et cetera," he said. New understanding "It's very, very important that we try to build a new understanding of the club going forward together. "It's documented that the club needs to be sustainable from its own funds, and that put us in a category of clubs that probably we are not used to being in. "Maybe 10 years ago, we would be able to rival the Arsenals and Manchester Citys and Chelseas of this world in terms of transfers. "But that looks difficult at the moment until such times as we grow the club and show on the pitch that we can bring some success, then hopefully keep our better players and build on that. "Unfortunately, the business of this Premier League makes it difficult. These top clubs can come and grab our players and until such time as we are financially strong enough to hold off sovereign states, we are going to have a problem." Contrast that to what our then manager said about us a mere 3 and a half seasons ago.. Kevin Keegan: 'We can break the top four' By Simon Bird 19/01/2008 Kevin Keegan Keegan warns Fergie and Co that Toon are ready to break Big Four's stranglehold Kevin Keegan sounded his Newcastle battle-cry last night and insisted: 'We can break the top four'. The United boss threw down the gauntlet to Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool by declaring Newcastle are the only club who can mount a serious bid to smash their dominance. And in his inspirational first team-talk, Keegan, who revealed he will speak to Alan Shearer about a coaching role, told his stars to "respect the institution of Newcastle United, deliver what the fans want, and you will be heroes". Keegan returned to St James' Park as boss 11 years after his first spell ended and vowed to recreate the magic that earned him the nickname Messiah. He will be given a hero's welcome today in his first game back against Bolton and is itching to get started. "We have to deliver the dream," said Keegan. "I believe we are one of very few who can challenge the top four. We are one of the biggest clubs outside that big four, if not the biggest. I don't know if they will be fearing or quaking but we are a challenge to them. We have the support, we have the backing. "The top four have dominated in the last five years. That shows how difficult it is to get into the elite group but we have to give it a go." Keegan also revealed that after talks with owner Mike Ashley he will have no problem financing any transfer targets he indentifies. "Having met Mike, I know what his ambition is," Keegan added. "If we want to bring someone here and he is right us, and I go and ask Mike, I'll get the finance." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dogbeak Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 both of them wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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