Alan Pardew

[Shearergol]

I'd like to be added to the list of smug know-it-alls, please. Same goes for Allardyce.

 

Unfortunately I can't count myself a smug know-it-all about Allardyce, was happy with his appointment, didn't take long for the good will to evaporate though.

 

Souness was a proper wtf, but likewise I was delighted when we appointed Fat Sam thought he would do well for us 

 

I hated both appointments. I am win.

[Guest cr4igora]

I hated both appointments. I am win.

 

Nobody associated with Newcastle won.

[Taylor Swift]

Well, Ashley has as much right to argue to Pardew about the team as us fans do, and I'm pretty sure most of us think that Pardew's made mistakes with team selection and tactics in the past. That's not to say we're smarter and thus would be a better manager than he is, but I think it does say that football's not some esoteric thing where only a few are privy to the keys to a successful team. For what it's worth, I think the direction of the team i.e. our style of play and the type of players that we are signing, are being imposed on Pardew. Pardew has never spoken about fast, quick players playing good football and he's never been able to get his teams to play that kind of football. His WH team was good for a while, but they weren't a particularly good team to watch. And obviously he failed at Charlton.

 

I also think that if some of these signings weren't imposed on Pardew then he'd be after top-four rejects. His transfer record is pretty much like the average British manager, where his focus and knowledge of players is quite limited to the UK.

[Colocho]

Striker.

[Taylor Swift]

I'll also say that he's operating under a more continental style of management, where he selects the team but the incomings and outgoings are handled by a different group of people. And because of his record and the way he generally talked in the past, I think it's to our benefit that his management is limited to team selection. He's not an Alex Ferguson-type who has contacts and scouts throughout Europe and South America, and is willing to sign players from abroad to complement his team. Pardew strikes me as the type that wouldn't have heard of someone like Ronaldo before Man Utd spent 12m on him, and that's quite damning for someone who is in the footballing world. It's as damning as Shearer not knowing who Ben Arfa was before he signed for us.

[TRon]

Well, Ashley has as much right to argue to Pardew about the team as us fans do, and I'm pretty sure most of us think that Pardew's made mistakes with team selection and tactics in the past. That's not to say we're smarter and thus would be a better manager than he is, but I think it does say that football's not some esoteric thing where only a few are privy to the keys to a successful team. For what it's worth, I think the direction of the team i.e. our style of play and the type of players that we are signing, are being imposed on Pardew. Pardew has never spoken about fast, quick players playing good football and he's never been able to get his teams to play that kind of football. His WH team was good for a while, but they weren't a particularly good team to watch. And obviously he failed at Charlton.

 

I also think that if some of these signings weren't imposed on Pardew then he'd be after top-four rejects. His transfer record is pretty much like the average British manager, where his focus and knowledge of players is quite limited to the UK.

 

Good post. I've said previously in this thread that it will be interesting to see how he sets out the team with so many continental players in the side who will be used to a totally different style that we play over here. It's a real test of his managerial ability and if he's not up to it I expect a foreign manager will be brought in next.

[Wullie]

I'll also say that he's operating under a more continental style of management, where he selects the team but the incomings and outgoings are handled by a different group of people. And because of his record and the way he generally talked in the past, I think it's to our benefit that his management is limited to team selection. He's not an Alex Ferguson-type who has contacts and scouts throughout Europe and South America, and is willing to sign players from abroad to complement his team. Pardew strikes me as the type that wouldn't have heard of someone like Ronaldo before Man Utd spent 12m on him, and that's quite damning for someone who is in the footballing world. It's as damning as Shearer not knowing who Ben Arfa was before he signed for us.

 

Alex Ferguson prefers an English core to his team and squad, something we seem to be trying to get rid of which I don't agree with.

[Shearergol]

I'll also say that he's operating under a more continental style of management, where he selects the team but the incomings and outgoings are handled by a different group of people. And because of his record and the way he generally talked in the past, I think it's to our benefit that his management is limited to team selection. He's not an Alex Ferguson-type who has contacts and scouts throughout Europe and South America, and is willing to sign players from abroad to complement his team. Pardew strikes me as the type that wouldn't have heard of someone like Ronaldo before Man Utd spent 12m on him, and that's quite damning for someone who is in the footballing world. It's as damning as Shearer not knowing who Ben Arfa was before he signed for us.

 

Alex Ferguson prefers an English core to his team and squad, something we seem to be trying to get rid of which I don't agree with.

 

I'll bite.

 

Because we didn't offer Nolan the stupid contract he wanted, or because we accepted the massively inflated fee for Carroll?

[TRon]

I'll also say that he's operating under a more continental style of management, where he selects the team but the incomings and outgoings are handled by a different group of people. And because of his record and the way he generally talked in the past, I think it's to our benefit that his management is limited to team selection. He's not an Alex Ferguson-type who has contacts and scouts throughout Europe and South America, and is willing to sign players from abroad to complement his team. Pardew strikes me as the type that wouldn't have heard of someone like Ronaldo before Man Utd spent 12m on him, and that's quite damning for someone who is in the footballing world. It's as damning as Shearer not knowing who Ben Arfa was before he signed for us.

 

Alex Ferguson prefers an English core to his team and squad, something we seem to be trying to get rid of which I don't agree with.

 

Alex Ferguson can afford to pay the price of top English players so that helps. I sort of agree it's a big risk to pack the side with European footballers but a decent coach could really make it work.

[Guest sicko2ndbest]

Remember when we used to have players come to the club because of the managers we had no in spite of

[BottledDog]

Remember when we used to have players come to the club because of the managers we had no in spite of

 

Pretty sure Cabaye, Marveaux, Ba, and even Ben Arfa have all stated that the managers vision for them was a large factor in them signing FFS.

 

Stop being so bloody miserable.

[alpal78]

I'll also say that he's operating under a more continental style of management, where he selects the team but the incomings and outgoings are handled by a different group of people. And because of his record and the way he generally talked in the past, I think it's to our benefit that his management is limited to team selection. He's not an Alex Ferguson-type who has contacts and scouts throughout Europe and South America, and is willing to sign players from abroad to complement his team. Pardew strikes me as the type that wouldn't have heard of someone like Ronaldo before Man Utd spent 12m on him, and that's quite damning for someone who is in the footballing world. It's as damning as Shearer not knowing who Ben Arfa was before he signed for us.

 

Alex Ferguson prefers an English core to his team and squad, something we seem to be trying to get rid of which I don't agree with

 

Why? Isn't quality all that matters?

[Skeletor]

'Bulk of money still to be spent'

'Money is there for the right players'

 

Apparently.

[geordie jamie]

'Bulk of money still to be spent'

'Money is there for the right players'

 

Apparently.

 

If only it were true

[Minhosa]

'Bulk of money still to be spent'

'Money is there for the right players'

 

Apparently.

 

Look forward to it being spent Alan. Cheers.

[taxfree]

'Bulk of money still to be spent'

'Money is there for the right players'

 

Apparently.

 

Cissokho and Roux. Right players. No problem, Pards.

[spudwiser]

anything interseting in the post match interview?

[Disco]

Said Arsenal are a pack of cunts and he's going to glass Wenger when they have their glass of vino later.

[Dinho lad]

no

[Beren]

A very eventful match, lots of talking points, but one thing I'm desperate not to get swept under the carpet or lost in the ether is was his substitutes and bench selection.

 

HOW THE FUCK IS LOVENKRANDS ON THE BENCH AHEAD OF VUCKIC.

[Dave]

New style of play: pick two big men up front and whack it long to them for the first 45mins. Mint.

[Beren]

Fans on edge of seats.

 

...Trying to pelt you with tomatos for persisting with Lovenkrands

[johnnypd]

New style of play: pick two big men up front and whack it long to them for the first 45mins. Mint.

 

we looked both clueless and toothless in terms of going forward. you think we'd have been working on new systems of attack based on Pardew's soundbytes about a new style of playing etc. instead it was mindless punts and players looking like strangers who have just met.

[Guest Chubby Jason]

'Bulk of money still to be spent'

'Money is there for the right players'

 

Apparently.

[Disco]

CaulkinTheTimes George Caulkin

Pardew: "Gervinho dived - that gets the blood boiling, whether it's Joey Barton or any other footballer ... he's been stamped on & slapped."

 

Hear hear.