wormy Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Feel like this exceeds simply 'daft' but here it goes.. Could a season ticket holder 'do' Ashley if they could make enough of a case that his lies of doing this and that for the club persuaded them to invest in their ticket, before he did his usual backtracking? I guess the fact he's not quite dumb enough to start bellowing exactly how much he would be giving Rafa for transfers etc would deem this no. But just thinking from a false representation kind of angle? I'm the other end of the country with no season ticket btw so this isn't wishing thinking, just pointless bored musings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Feel like this exceeds simply 'daft' but here it goes.. Could a season ticket holder 'do' Ashley if they could make enough of a case that his lies of doing this and that for the club persuaded them to invest in their ticket, before he did his usual backtracking? I guess the fact he's not quite dumb enough to start bellowing exactly how much he would be giving Rafa for transfers etc would deem this no. But just thinking from a false representation kind of angle? I'm the other end of the country with no season ticket btw so this isn't wishing thinking, just pointless bored musings. Simple answer is no. There is no contractual gain of buying a ticket other than seeing a football match, if Ashley can provide that, then he's met his obligations. Your own reasoning for buying a ticket is nothing more than that, personal to you and influenced by nothing other than yourself. Ashley has also not made any direct promises of how much money will be available for transfers and exactly when that money will be spent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Shot that down just as quick as I was expecting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Can we still keep N-O even after the club is run into the ground and left a smouldering husk? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 It'd end up for the inevitable phoenix club, surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Who goes through if all games in a group (EL/CL) ends 0-0? So all teams end up on 6 points with no goals scored or conceeded. Do they just throw their names into a hat and pull two of them out? [emoji848] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following criteria are applied in the order given to determine their rankings: a. higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question; b. superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question; c. higher number of goals scored in the group matches played among the teams in question; d. higher number of goals scored away from home in the group matches played among the teams in question; e. if, after having applied criteria a) to d), teams still have an equal ranking, criteria a) to d) are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the teams in question to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria f) to l) apply; f. superior goal difference in all group matches; g. higher number of goals scored in all group matches; h. higher number of away goals scored in all group matches; i. higher number of wins in all group matches; j. higher number of away wins in all group matches; k. lower disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards received in all group matches (red card = 3 points, yellow card = 1 point, expulsion for two yellow cards in one match = 3 points); l. higher club coefficient (see Annex D). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Absolutely shite that if all else fails, we'll send the big club through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Feel like this exceeds simply 'daft' but here it goes.. Could a season ticket holder 'do' Ashley if they could make enough of a case that his lies of doing this and that for the club persuaded them to invest in their ticket, before he did his usual backtracking? I guess the fact he's not quite dumb enough to start bellowing exactly how much he would be giving Rafa for transfers etc would deem this no. But just thinking from a false representation kind of angle? I'm the other end of the country with no season ticket btw so this isn't wishing thinking, just pointless bored musings. If every season ticket holder decided to sue and got the worlds best lawyer to represent them, t would be a great film for somebody who looks like Julia Roberts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following criteria are applied in the order given to determine their rankings: a. higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question; b. superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question; c. higher number of goals scored in the group matches played among the teams in question; d. higher number of goals scored away from home in the group matches played among the teams in question; e. if, after having applied criteria a) to d), teams still have an equal ranking, criteria a) to d) are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the teams in question to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria f) to l) apply; f. superior goal difference in all group matches; g. higher number of goals scored in all group matches; h. higher number of away goals scored in all group matches; i. higher number of wins in all group matches; j. higher number of away wins in all group matches; k. lower disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards received in all group matches (red card = 3 points, yellow card = 1 point, expulsion for two yellow cards in one match = 3 points); l. higher club coefficient (see Annex D). Thanks Dave So in my example I guess yellow and red cards would be the decider. Not sure that situation would eve occur though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Why are red card challenges reviewed retrospectively but other red card incidents aren't? So for example, yesterday Gayle was running through on goal and there was a coming together with Stoke's last man. If that was a foul, it would have inevitably been a red card for the defender. I'm not saying that incident was a foul/red card but using it as an example - those red card incidents are never reviewed retrospectively, just wondered why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Why are red card challenges reviewed retrospectively but other red card incidents aren't? So for example, yesterday Gayle was running through on goal and there was a coming together with Stoke's last man. If that was a foul, it would have inevitably been a red card for the defender. I'm not saying that incident was a foul/red card but using it as an example - those red card incidents are never reviewed retrospectively, just wondered why. Because no referee is going to admit to not having seen a passage of play like a player running on goal (and tbf, why wouldn't he be looking at that?). That's why bad tackles are also never dealt with retrospectively. It's all to do with whether the ref saw the incident or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Just deeksed a clip of Baggio being outrageous and got me thinking has there ever been a better strike partnership than himself and Dario Hubner at a truly mediocre club? (Brescia in this instance) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 I asked a similar, but slightly different question, not long back. That's a good shout. Seeing Cassano reunited with Pazzini at Verona has reminded me of their brilliant partnership for Sampdoria that lifted an extremely average side into the Champions League. It made me try and think of other examples of where a poor side has been lifted purely by the quality - but more crucially partnership - of a front 2. I can only really think off the top of my head of Quinn and Phillips for the mackems. But I am sure there must be more examples out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Ah shit aye, you did. Well there's my nomination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Nihat and Kovacevic nearly won the league for Sociedad, another decent shout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Do Mahrez and Vardy count? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 No, better luck next time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Shearer and Sutton Suarez and Sturridge Beardsley and Cole Quinn and Phillips Shearer and Owen should have been, on paper. Taking a few liberties there because they're not all 'average' sides, but those partnerships were still at a higher quality than the rest of the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Deportivo weren't total shite, but wouldn't have been anywhere as good as they were in the early 2000s without Diego Tristan and Roy Mackaay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Martin O'Neill managed Villa to three 6th place finishes in a row with Agbonlahor and Carew up front. Worked well with Young and Milner on the wings for some of that period Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Collymore & Bryan Roy took a pretty average Forest to 3rd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Just looked at their results that season, their run-in was insane. Last 11 games: P11 W9 D2 L0 F28 A8 Pts29. Edit: Their 1st 11 wasn't shabby either! P11 W8 D3 L0 F25 A11 Pts 27. They mustn't have fancied the cold winter of 94-95. Had a crap run where they lost 10 and only won 6 out of 18. They were only 12 behind Blackburn in the end, could have won it if they'd not went to shit there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Bryan Roy was great on SWOS, always increased in value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Soz to piss on your chips but I thought Roy was a right winger? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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