Froggy Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Lewandonski probably needs good players around him to be effective while Ibra might pull off something special out of nowhere. Plus, his presence alone would be good for any team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 ibra would be better for a poorer team imo, lewandowski will achieve more (in terms of goals) in a a better team than ibra imo Lewandonski probably needs good players around him to be effective while Ibra might pull off something special out of nowhere. Plus, his presence alone would be good for any team. Both of these are assumptions based on probably's and maybe's. At their peak from what we've seen from both, Lewandowski has performed better. Ibrahimovic hasn't come close to a season like the one Lewandowski just had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 ibra would be better for a poorer team imo, lewandowski will achieve more (in terms of goals) in a a better team than ibra imo Lewandonski probably needs good players around him to be effective while Ibra might pull off something special out of nowhere. Plus, his presence alone would be good for any team. Both of these are assumptions based on probably's and maybe's. At their peak from what we've seen from both, Lewandowski has performed better. Ibrahimovic hasn't come close to a season like the one Lewandowski just had. It was an opinion based question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 ibra would be better for a poorer team imo, lewandowski will achieve more (in terms of goals) in a a better team than ibra imo Lewandonski probably needs good players around him to be effective while Ibra might pull off something special out of nowhere. Plus, his presence alone would be good for any team. Both of these are assumptions based on probably's and maybe's. At their peak from what we've seen from both, Lewandowski has performed better. Ibrahimovic hasn't come close to a season like the one Lewandowski just had. 50 goals in 51 games in 2015-16 not to far off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 In a considerably worse league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 In a considerably worse league Oh I agree. But to dismiss him has having never come close is just wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheesy Beans Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Ibra has performed consistently in every league he has played, Lewandowski has only ‘done it’ in Germany. Lewandowski’s international record is great (1 in 2?) but a majority of those goals have been scored against the likes of San Marino, Belarus, Slovakia etc. He’s obviously world class, but it’d be Ibra every day for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 In a considerably worse league Oh I agree. But to dismiss him has having never come close is just wrong. It's not wrong at all IMO. The French league is a poor league and even more so then. Also knocked out in the quarter finals of the CL whereas Lewandowski won it? That's a pretty big difference in seasons I think. Lewandowski would have walked the Ballon d'Or. It's unfortunate for him it was cancelled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Ibra has performed consistently in every league he has played, Lewandowski has only ‘done it’ in Germany. Lewandowski’s international record is great (1 in 2?) but a majority of those goals have been scored against the likes of San Marino, Belarus, Slovakia etc. He’s obviously world class, but it’d be Ibra every day for me. Messi has only done it in Spain and done nothing at International level. Messi or Ronaldo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheesy Beans Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Ibra has performed consistently in every league he has played, Lewandowski has only ‘done it’ in Germany. Lewandowski’s international record is great (1 in 2?) but a majority of those goals have been scored against the likes of San Marino, Belarus, Slovakia etc. He’s obviously world class, but it’d be Ibra every day for me. Messi has only done it in Spain and done nothing at International level. Messi or Ronaldo? Ronaldo, for the same reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Ibra has performed consistently in every league he has played, Lewandowski has only ‘done it’ in Germany. Lewandowski’s international record is great (1 in 2?) but a majority of those goals have been scored against the likes of San Marino, Belarus, Slovakia etc. He’s obviously world class, but it’d be Ibra every day for me. Messi has only done it in Spain and done nothing at International level. Messi or Ronaldo? Ronaldo, for the same reasons. Fair play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Shearer has only "done it" in England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheesy Beans Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Shearer has only "done it" in England More players should move around, I don’t understand why they don’t. Particularly good English players, they virtually never move abroad. You learn so much more and adapt your game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 In a considerably worse league Oh I agree. But to dismiss him has having never come close is just wrong. It's not wrong at all IMO. The French league is a poor league and even more so then. Also knocked out in the quarter finals of the CL whereas Lewandowski won it? That's a pretty big difference in seasons I think. Lewandowski would have walked the Ballon d'Or. It's unfortunate for him it was cancelled. Oh I don't disagree with the main points, but context and the team you play in is important. 2015-16 PSG are nowhere near the level of the current Bayern team. No doubt what Lewandowski has achieved this season is greater but you are wrong to be so dismissive on the point of "not even come close". It's sensationalist nonesense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Shearer has only "done it" in England More players should move around, I don’t understand why they don’t. Particularly good English players, they virtually never move abroad. You learn so much more and adapt your game. You don't understand why Shearer didn't move abroad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheesy Beans Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Shearer has only "done it" in England More players should move around, I don’t understand why they don’t. Particularly good English players, they virtually never move abroad. You learn so much more and adapt your game. You don't understand why Shearer didn't move abroad? I wasn’t specifically referring to Shearer, but the top English players in general. Shearer is unique in the fact that he stayed with his boyhood club - Lewandowski, Ronaldo, Messi, Ibra etc. haven’t and aren’t comparable in that sense. Should have probably said that in my last post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 In a considerably worse league Think it's easier to score in Germany than France if anything. Nobody defends in Germany Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 In a considerably worse league Think it's easier to score in Germany than France if anything. Nobody defends in Germany Yeah, so many ridiculous high scoring games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 I can't believe anyone would chose Ibrahimovic over Lewandowski ffs, it's not even close Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Shearer has only "done it" in England More players should move around, I don’t understand why they don’t. Particularly good English players, they virtually never move abroad. You learn so much more and adapt your game. You don't understand why Shearer didn't move abroad? I wasn’t specifically referring to Shearer, but the top English players in general. Shearer is unique in the fact that he stayed with his boyhood club - Lewandowski, Ronaldo, Messi, Ibra etc. haven’t and aren’t comparable in that sense. Should have probably said that in my last post. Messi was at Barca from young Shearer didn’t play for newcastle as a boy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 there's always talk of what can be done to even out the PL in terms of money etc. - what do you think the effect would be if you americanised the prize money, so to speak, so the title winners get the least money and bottom the most etc.? would have an immediate impact but could it help long term? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 there's always talk of what can be done to even out the PL in terms of money etc. - what do you think the effect would be if you americanised the prize money, so to speak, so the title winners get the least money and bottom the most etc.? would have an immediate impact but could it help long term? Guess who wins again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheesy Beans Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 If you were relegated, would it not incentivise teams to lose games and finish bottom in order to get more money? You’d be miffed off if you were fighting for the title or CL or whatever and your rivals were playing someone in that situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 If you were relegated, would it not incentivise teams to lose games and finish bottom in order to get more money? You’d be miffed off if you were fighting for the title or CL or whatever and your rivals were playing someone in that situation. Would it work if you didn't include the relegated teams? So they get some form of the current parachute payments while 1st-17th gets the reversed money. Wouldn't make sense to give CL-challenger money to a team about to go in to the Championship. Not that I'm a fan of the concept in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cheesy Beans Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 If you were relegated, would it not incentivise teams to lose games and finish bottom in order to get more money? You’d be miffed off if you were fighting for the title or CL or whatever and your rivals were playing someone in that situation. Would it work if you didn't include the relegated teams? So they get some form of the current parachute payments while 1st-17th gets the reversed money. Wouldn't make sense to give CL-challenger money to a team about to go in to the Championship. Not that I'm a fan of the concept in general. You’d still have the same issue with all teams I guess. Teams 10th and below with 5 games to go would be incentivised to lose their remaining games as they have nothing other than money to play for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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