Daft questions (football edition)

[Guest HTT II]

24 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

Slightly related, but am I right we came close to signing Boban and/or Seedorf under Gullit?

It was like the KK days when we appointed Gullit, we were linked with everyone, most were made up nonsense.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, HTT II said:

Most of them were squad fillers having reentered the reserve leagues which was abandoned under KK.

Aye. Remember seeing the likes of Pinas, Coppinger, Gudjonnsen, Brady, etc playing pretty regularly at Gateshead Stadium against the likes of Scarborough Reserves because we could only re-enter in the 4th tier of the reserve league system. Set us back a few years the decision to get rid of the reserves as the likes of Guppy & Huckerby weren’t willing to hang around with no football at all. They’d have walked into our side either side of the millennium between Dalglish and the 01/02 season.

 

 

Edited April 14, 2022 by Optimistic Nut

[Guest HTT II]

25 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Aye. Remember seeing the likes of Pinas, Coppinger, Gudjonnsen, Brady, etc playing pretty regularly at Gateshead Stadium against the likes of Scarborough Reserves because we could only re-enter in the 4th tier of the reserve league system. Set us back a few years the decision to get rid of the reserves as the likes of Guppy & Huckerby weren’t willing to hang around with no football at all. They’d have walked into our side either side of the millennium between Dalglish and the 01/02 season.

 

 

 

Kitson as well who I always rated, he did well for WHU

[54]

How would you rank all the managers of the Ashley era from best to worst.

 

Benitez

Hughton

Keegan

Allardyce

Pardew

Shearer

McClaren

Bruce

Kinnear

Carver

 

Its mental that I probably hate Pardew the most out of all of them, although its 50/50 with Bruce, yet hes still in the top half of the shit show of managers we had in that era  

[Pilko]

Benitez (obvious)

Hughton (similar results to Benitez before harsh sacking)

Keegan (hands tied)

Pardew (purely for 5th & didn't relegate us)

Allardyce (we'd have finished mid-table under him IMO)

Kinnear (we'd have stayed up if he didn't get sick IMO)

Shearer (shit, but on a hiding to nothing)

Bruce (spent loads, never relegated us)

Carver (abject but kept us up... just)

McClaren (full pre-season, spent loads, relegated us. Worst)

 

FYI I've rated this on their results with the club versus the spend/situation they had here. Shearer's results were wank but he inherited a doomed squad for about six weeks and that's factored in.

 

 

Edited April 14, 2022 by Pilko

[The Prophet]

10 minutes ago, 54 said:

How would you rank all the managers of the Ashley era from best to worst.

 

Benitez

Hughton

Keegan

Allardyce

Pardew

Shearer

McClaren

Bruce

Kinnear

Carver

 

Its mental that I probably hate Pardew the most out of all of them, although its 50/50 with Bruce, yet hes still in the top half of the shit show of managers we had in that era  

 

In terms of managerial ability, how likable or overall impact on the club? 

 

 

Edited April 14, 2022 by The Prophet

[MrRaspberryJam]

4 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

In terms of managerial ability, how likable or overall impact on the club? 

 

 

 

 

It's up to you. It's your own choice, your own decisions.

[54]

9 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

In terms of managerial ability, how likable or overall impact on the club? 

 

 

 

How ever you want to view them to be honest.

[The Prophet]

Hughton - pre-the death of hope. Did an amazing job to rally the squad and have us promoted at the first time of asking. Also had some amazing results including 6-0 v Villa and 5-1 Sunderland.

Keegan - pre-the death of hope. His limited time here showed plenty of promise, but he wasn't really around long enough to have an impact.

Benitez - he did a great job, but he was only ever going to be able to take us so far on a shoe string budget, plus his days always felt numbered.

Allardyce - not really given an opportunity, but he was probably taking us down.

Shearer - his heart was in the right place taking us on, but he really was woeful.

Kinnear - he wasn't as terminally shit as I was expecting, but he was just a thorough embarrassment of a bloke.

McClaren - just a nothing manager, should have been sacked long before he was and his spell ultimately cost us our top flight status. I'd have potentially ranked him lower, but I was firmly tuned out during his time.

Bruce - just a really unlikeable bloke and a shit manager to boot. The biggest compliment I can give him is that he somehow didn't take us down.

Carver - another unbearable cunt, but with even less managerial ability.

Pardew - on the pitch, it wasn't all bad. Mr Carr takes a lot of credit for that mind. Other than 5th, we had a near miss with relegation  and a midtable finish. Ultimately he's the worst because his reign changed my relationship with Newcastle United (for the worst). He was the cheerleader for big Mike establishing us as an ambitiousless Sports Direct advertising vessel. I started my boycott during after the 0-6 defeat to Liverpool and never looked back.

 

 

Edited April 14, 2022 by The Prophet

[Guest HTT II]

Benitez Not shit

Hughton Not shit

Keegan Not shit

Allardyce Shit

Pardew Shit

Shearer Shit

McClaren Shit

Bruce Shit

Kinnear Shit

Carver Shit

[Yorkie]

As has been said, there's three good ones, various shades of shite, then Bruce and Pardew. Separating those two at the bottom is really hard but I was most 'out' during the Bruce days. He wasn't solely responsible for that but his presence ensured I was never coming back in. 

[gbandit]

42 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Hughton - pre-the death of hope. Did an amazing job to rally the squad and have us promoted at the first time of asking. Also had some amazing results including 6-0 v Villa and 5-1 Sunderland.

Keegan - pre-the death of hope. His limited time here showed plenty of promise, but he wasn't really around long enough to have an impact.

Benitez - he did a great job, but he was only ever going to be able to take us so far on a shoe string budget, plus his days always felt numbered.

Allardyce - not really given an opportunity, but he was probably taking us down.

Shearer - his heart was in the right place taking us on, but he really was woeful.

Kinnear - he wasn't as terminally shit as I was expecting, but he was just a thorough embarrassment of a bloke.

McClaren - just a nothing manager, should have been sacked long before he was and his spell ultimately cost us our top flight status. I'd have potentially ranked him lower, but I was firmly tuned out during his time.

Bruce - just a really unlikeable bloke and a shit manager to boot. The biggest compliment I can give him is that he somehow didn't take us down.

Carver - another unbearable cunt, but with even less managerial ability.

Pardew - on the pitch, it wasn't all bad. Mr Carr takes a lot of credit for that mind. Other than 5th, we had a near miss with relegation  and a midtable finish. Ultimately he's the worst because his reign changed my relationship with Newcastle United (for the worst). He was the cheerleader for big Mike establishing us as an ambitiousless Sports Direct advertising vessel. I started my boycott during after the 0-6 defeat to Liverpool and never looked back.

 

 

 

Mostly agree with this, would switch Benitez and Hughton around potentially but there’s not much between the top three. It absolutely bombs after that but I’d probably put Bruce and Pardew bottom two, Pardew at the bottom like yours. Feel like Allardyce doesn’t deserve fourth but who could displace him 

[The Butcher]

Pardew has to be at the top. The utter cunt got us into Europe. 

[Mike]

Between Bruce and Pardew for the bottom of the table and Rafa or Chris at the top.

 

Absolute hate off at the bottom, some cracking names down there.

[The Prophet]

26 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Mostly agree with this, would switch Benitez and Hughton around potentially but there’s not much between the top three. It absolutely bombs after that but I’d probably put Bruce and Pardew bottom two, Pardew at the bottom like yours. Feel like Allardyce doesn’t deserve fourth but who could displace him 

 

Yeah, nothing between everyone from Allardyce to McClaren, you could put them in any order really. 

[Pixelphish]

Bruce rock bottom. Dispicable cunt. 

[SEMTEX]

6 hours ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

Stumped on the one top right - looks like "Solano", but if the timeframe you've given us is right then he was one of Kenny's last signings.

 

Was this shirt signed all at once, or over a period of time? 

 

Here's my most recent MSPAINT especial:

 

 

Ignore the Georgiadis comment. It's been DEBUNKED.

 

So currently what is left is:

The shitty bird drawing next to Dabizas.

The debunked Robbie Elliott, that I had also theorized could be an awful Des Hamilton autograph.

The Bjarni!??! one. I'll give Barnes a deex now, cos there are very few people left it could be tbh.

The line/squiggle under Keith Gillespie, that could be Stuart Pearce, but also could just be a random leftover line from JDT/Gillespie.

 

I think that's everything.

 

To my knowledge, this was done in one go and given to some company my Uncle worked at (Robson Brown). He then gave it to me. And the timing would be between March & May 1998.

 

[MrRaspberryJam]

Didnt see the one under Gillespie, looks like Pearce's like.  I just assumed it was the same autograph, be weird to sign it so close to another signature.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325104034497?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=325104034497&targetid=1405062617979&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=1006955&poi=&campaignid=16782379350&mkgroupid=138238132947&rlsatarget=pla-1405062617979&abcId=9300843&merchantid=116315203&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvb2Q19GT9wIVQrTtCh1xvwFTEAQYBiABEgJ1bvD_BwE

[MrRaspberryJam]

That's definitely Pistone's though, yeah. Maybe the Batty/Des Hamilton one could be the wrong way round though I was thinking.

 

But I think that's all the first team options exhausted, all that could be left could be reserves/fringe players: Patrick Kelly, David Terrier, James Coppinger, Jimmy Crawford, Ralk Kiedel, Jamie McClen, Brian Pinas, Paul Brayson. Good luck finding their autographs online though!

 

 

Edited April 14, 2022 by MrRaspberryJam

[MrRaspberryJam]

 

 

 

This is a stretch mind.. but Paul Dalglish? 

 

[SEMTEX]

1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

That's definitely Pistone's though, yeah. Maybe the Batty/Des Hamilton one could be the wrong way round though I was thinking.

 

But I think that's all the first team options exhausted, all that could be left could be reserves/fringe players: Patrick Kelly, David Terrier, James Coppinger, Jimmy Crawford, Ralk Kiedel, Jamie McClen, Brian Pinas, Paul Brayson.

 

Aye. And if it's any of theirs... I think I might just put this one to bed.

 

The only other option is Kenny Dalglish. Or Steve Clarke or some mug like that.

[Mazzy]

Bruce and McClaren way down at the bottom in my ranking, either of them could go down as the worst, both for different reasons.

 

 

Benitez and Hughton at the top for me, difficult to separate them for what they did. The fact that most people see these 2 as the best/their favourite manager given they both got us promoted is surely no coincidence.

 

Pardew gets a special mention for what the team he managed actually achieved. How much he was responsible for that is for another discussion.

 

The rest are a much of a muchness and in the grand scheme of things will barely get a mention in the history books (Shearer aside perhaps).

[macphisto]

Undoubtedly Bruce and Carver at the bottom based on the fact that they are from Newcastle and to work for Ashley is inexcusable as they knew the harm he was doing to the club and city.

[HaydnNUFC]

Given Klopp's whinging about having to play us at 12:30, does anyone else fucking despise the early kick off anyway? Not for giving any kind of advantage for opposition in Europe but for more in general?

 

At 12:30 kick off, it creates hassle for away fans (us quite a lot) for getting transport to games at ridiculously early times, hassle for home fans travelling a long way or getting up early into the city. It'd be annoying for pubs as they'll have to open around 11am and they'll have to get staff up and in early to open up and on top of that, the atmospheres are flat as fuck. 

 

I'd much rather the slots for games on TV in the UK were 17:30 Saturdays, 19:45/20:00 Saturdays, 14:00 Sundays, 16:30 Sundays and 19:00 Sundays. Fuck the Mondays and early kick offs off.

 

 

Edited April 14, 2022 by HaydnNUFC

[Guest neesy111]

5 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

Given Klopp's whinging about having to play us at 12:30, does anyone else fucking despise the early kick off anyway? Not for giving any kind of advantage for opposition in Europe but for more in general?

 

At 12:30 kick off, it creates hassle for away fans (us quite a lot) for getting transport to games at ridiculously early times, hassle for home fans travelling a long way or getting up early into the city. It'd be annoying for pubs as they'll have to open around 11am and they'll have to get staff up and in early to open up and on top of that, the atmospheres are flat as fuck. 

 

I'd much rather the slots for games on TV in the UK were 17:30 Saturdays, 19:45/20:00 Saturdays, 14:00 Sundays, 16:30 Sundays and 19:00 Sundays. Fuck the Mondays and early kick offs off.

 

 

 

 

Atmosphere at every 12:30 kick off I can remember is shite.