tmonkey Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 On the subject of overrated players, step forward Cesc. He's good when pissing over the likes of Bolton, Blackburn, etc, but has done sod all in big games for donkey years now. Isn't fast, isn't slippery like Xavi, doesn't dribble all that well (like Iniesta), hit a purple patch 2 seasons ago in terms of goals from midfield which I'm not sure he can reproduce, gets reduced to constantly trying desperate through balls in said big games (especially CL ones), and when wound up he looks and acts like what I'd imagine a 5 foot 9 giant rodent able to play football to look/act like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Agree, tbh. He's a very good player, but he's overrated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 He's a top, top player but his constant injuries would be a concern if I was looking at him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Will get shot down for this, but I don't even think he's the best Spanish midfielder in the Premiership Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 9 goals and 17 assists for Fabregas last season. More than what Xavi and Iniesta achieved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 He's a top, top player but his constant injuries would be a concern if I was looking at him. On that subject me and a friend were commenting the other day how hilarious it would be if after all the saga he ended up failing the medical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Can't say he is "overrated" as everyone would agree he is not on the same level as Xavi and Iniesta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Can't say he is "overrated" as everyone would agree he is not on the same level as Xavi and Iniesta. surprising that with them being the third and second best players in the world currently as voted by their peers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I don't think Cesc is as good as Xavi or Iniesta BUT I also think he'd look much better in the Barça team than he already does! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 He had a poor season by his standards last time - either due to injuries or being distracted by the Barca-transfer saga, I'm not sure. But at his best, mentally and physically, he's a great player and would get a place in any side in the world. It looks like he's come to the end of the road with Arsenal though. It's gone on too long now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 According to the live FSC broadcast, Sjneider(sp?) has already agreed terms with Man U, just waiting for the clubs to hash it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 According to the live FSC broadcast, Sjneider(sp?) has already agreed terms with Man U, just waiting for the clubs to hash it out. And yet Goal.coms Serie A editor claimed the total opposite...(Discrediting Goal btw). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 nasri and aguero to city today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Frediel >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gomes Who? Brad Friedel looked average at best lest season, very slow and reactions starting to go. Friedel spent last year veering between being awesome and being an absolute liability. He's rooted to his line these days. If you'd taken a straw poll - and this was certainly the case with the people i talk to who sit near me - of Villa fans at the end of last year, there would have been almost unanimous agreement we needed a new goalkeeper. That's why I was utterly amazed when Spurs gave him a two year contract. Baffling. Surely he isn't going to be your number one, is he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 nasri and aguero to city today Our press is reporting that Agüero doesn't fancy it, though, but will probably agree as his only way out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I don't think Cesc is as good as Xavi or Iniesta BUT I also think he'd look much better in the Barça team than he already does! I don't think he's even on the same planet as those two, to be frank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 To be honest, Xavi didn't start becoming Xavi until he was 25-26, so I think Cesc still has ways to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I don't think Cesc is as good as Xavi or Iniesta BUT I also think he'd look much better in the Barça team than he already does! I don't think he's even on the same planet as those two, to be frank. Agree with you. Fabregas is 2nd or 3rd bracket in terms of the best players in the world. Those two are very comfortably top bracket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Still don't understand why Wenger doesn't take the money and run, it's insane. Honestly can't see Cesc producing his best at Arsenal again with all this going on. And £35m for a player who look to be only sat on the bench half of his first season at least, who isn't fully committed to the cause (no matter how much of this 'professional, will carry on doing his job to the best of his abilities rubbish), seems like a fucking good deal. I understand Wenger wanting to stand his ground but there's a point where it's got to be better for the team as a whole to do this? FWIW, if Barca do get him, I wouldn't be surprised to see him out of the door in a few years. Something about it that screams failure to me. Probably won't happen that way at all, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 If I was Arsenal I would definitely sell him. Though you could have said the same about us and Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Still don't understand why Wenger doesn't take the money and run, it's insane. Honestly can't see Cesc producing his best at Arsenal again with all this going on. And £35m for a player who look to be only sat on the bench half of his first season at least, who isn't fully committed to the cause (no matter how much of this 'professional, will carry on doing his job to the best of his abilities rubbish), seems like a f***ing good deal. I understand Wenger wanting to stand his ground but there's a point where it's got to be better for the team as a whole to do this? FWIW, if Barca do get him, I wouldn't be surprised to see him out of the door in a few years. Something about it that screams failure to me. Probably won't happen that way at all, like. The similarities with Gerard López give me nightmares indeed: playmaker that left our B team for Valencia, made it big there, was rebought for an insane fee and went on to become an abject injury-ridden failure. Regarding Wenger, if he loses Nasri and Cesc is back to square zero after 6 years of "getting ready". So I can see why he clings for dear life to both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Which similarities make you think that Fabregas will go on to become an abject injury-ridden nightmare? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Which similarities make you think that Fabregas will go on to become an abject injury-ridden nightmare? None, it's just the chronic pessimist in me. It's just anechdotical stuff and the whole "prodigal son coming home" hyperbole that went on at the time too. It hurt the lad as hype was sky-high. Cesc's fitness does worry me though, although he's so pivotal to Arsenal that has been rushed to action many times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Anyhow, according to the Catalan telly, our vice-president is in London. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 The fucking cheek of a Barcelona fan being a "chronic pessimist" when it comes to football. "We're buying the third best central midfielder in the world to back-up the two best central midfielders in the world, who also play for us, but I just can't help but feel a little unsure about it all." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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