Guest firetotheworks Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 I still think he has another level to show so it could be that. It certainly wouldn't have been for his leadership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Ozil was a fluke signing imo. By fluke, I mean that Arsenal hadn't identified that position as an issue or seriously pursued Ozil until it became apparent Madrid wanted to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Ozil was a fluke signing imo. By fluke, I mean that Arsenal hadn't identified that position as an issue or seriously pursued Ozil until it became apparent Madrid wanted to sell. Absolute masterstroke from Wenger, patience has paid dividends, whilst all Arsenal fans panicked around him, he stayed calm and waited for his opportunity, and along came Ozil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Yep. He was dear but fits them perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Ozil was a fluke signing imo. By fluke, I mean that Arsenal hadn't identified that position as an issue or seriously pursued Ozil until it became apparent Madrid wanted to sell. Absolute masterstroke from Wenger, patience has paid dividends, whilst all Arsenal fans panicked around him, he stayed calm and waited for his opportunity, and along came Ozil. Eh? They were after Suarez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Well an Arsenal mate of mine who does know people at Arsenal insisted at the time that it was Kinnear who was briefing the media about the bid when people were saying it was poor from Arsenal to go public when we were about to play City. I guess when Kinnear is involved nothing is as it would appear and as that has been Newcastle anyway for the last few years, I guess things are even more complicated now. Past experience makes me question the Club's version on everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Ozil was a fluke signing imo. By fluke, I mean that Arsenal hadn't identified that position as an issue or seriously pursued Ozil until it became apparent Madrid wanted to sell. What an utterly daft post. A) How the hell do you know who Arsenal were after and what positions they wanted to strengthen? B) A world class player was available for transfer and they met the asking price. Generally how business is conducted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 I have quite a few Arsenal supporting mates and most of them seem to think their targets were DM, AM and Striker and that was from the get go. They got Flamini so that covers the DM part and they were chasing strikers all summer but ultimately failed but was able to get Ozil. I personally believe long term he wanted to replace Fabregas and Van Persie, but failed with the Van Persie part so then decided to step up the interest in a WC attacking midfielder. I think originally he wanted to get Suarez this summer and then try and entice Fabregas back or another attacking midfielder next summer. But when Suarez didn't happen it seems he changed his plan to get an attacking midfielder in this summer and go for a quality striker later down the line. Obviously they were reliant on Ozil being made available to make that happen but an attacking midfielder was always on the cards, its something they had tried to do all summer on top of a striker..... i personally wouldn't be surprised at all if they go back to Madrid next summer for Benzema. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 They didn't bid for any other AM's as far as I am aware of. They bid for multiple DM's and Strikers. Who else did they bid for as an AM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Ozil was a fluke signing imo. By fluke, I mean that Arsenal hadn't identified that position as an issue or seriously pursued Ozil until it became apparent Madrid wanted to sell. Absolute masterstroke from Wenger, patience has paid dividends, whilst all Arsenal fans panicked around him, he stayed calm and waited for his opportunity, and along came Ozil. Eh? They were after Suarez. And...? If they had signed Suarez, i could have took Ozil out of sentence and replaced with Suarez, my point is he waited for the right player to become available who would take Arsenal on to the next level, he didn't just go out every window and panic buy and splash all the cash, he waited for his one gem of a player and got it in Ozil, Wenger shouldn't have had to put up with the abuse he got from Arsenal fans, he's a genius and they were impatient kernts who the majority never gave their support and trust too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Yohan Cabaye claims that Newcastle's director of football Joe Kinnear is the only person who can explain what happened about his proposed move to Arsenal. The French international refused to play at the start of the season, after Arsenal made a bid on the eve of the new season. Newcastle rebuffed the bid and Cabaye later apologised to the fans over the situation. Cabaye, now back in the France squad, was asked about his failed Arsenal move by the media in his homeland during a press conference for the national side. He said: "Was my failed transfer to Arsenal difficult to swallow? At first, yes. "But you have to quickly get focused again, because if you go on thinking about it you have a grudge against a lot of people and that is useless. "I quickly forget about it and go back to work." "The only person who can explain what happened is Joe Kinnear. If he is honest, he will tell it. Otherwise it will not get out of my mouth." Yohan Cabaye Cabaye insists that he does not hold anything against some Newcastle fans who booed him upon his return. "The fans' state of mind was due to what the club wanted to let them know," he said. "As I didn't talk and I won't give any explanation about what happened, they chose their side. That is part of a career, but I bear no grudge against no one. I accept it, it is in the past." Cabaye admitted that only Kinnear could reveal the truth behind the situation. He said: "The only person who can explain what happened is Joe Kinnear. If he is honest, he will tell it. Otherwise it will not get out of my mouth." Cabaye admits he is delighted to be back in the French squad. He added: "I missed the French team, but my situation made me not callable for some time. "Now that I am back the objective is to stay as long as possible, with the hope of going to play next at World Cup in June." Remy Meanwhile on the back of his recall to the French side, Cabaye has thrown his support behind Newcastle team-mate Loic Remy, who is also back in the squad. "He has scored important goals - twice again (on Saturday) and he helped us to win the game so of course he deserves to be in the France squad," Cabaye told nufcTV. "For me it's fantastic because I love to play forward and with him, it's so easy because he's quick. "He can move very fast and very cleverly so it's very, very important for us. He gives us another way to play." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Fucks sake man, this 'I've got a secret' shit ain't exactly helping, you might as well just spit it out now it's obvious you have an axe to grind. It's not like it'll affect your departure in Jan or at the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Obviously the club were hanging him out waiting for the right bid. He's probably pissed because they've spun it to make him look the cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 All I care about is if he refused to play or not, not arsed at all on how the club handled Arsenals bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Like Kinnear is going to be 'honest' about this when it clearly must make him look like a cunt We aren't getting to the bottom of this anytime soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Honestly don't care about this stuff now. Players want to join better teams, no shock there. Kinnear is a cunt and/or incompetent, ditto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 We were NEVER going to sell him for that price and he had to know that, if they had made a fair offer I am sure we would have sold him. As soon as he is on international duty we get these interviews, what was the last one? the Man U stuff I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Kinnear will blab eventually. It's just who he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Kinnear will blab eventually. It's just who he is. Yeah, but it'll be some complete cock and bull story with any truth completely obliterated into the realm of fantasy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 He'll definitely say that he'd arranged a swap deal involving Bale coming the other way but Cabaye refused to move to the former Yugoslavia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Cabaye confirming what we all knew. As soon as there was some interest in him the club leaks it to all and sundry. I bet he didn't go on strike, rather the club wrapped him in cotton wool to avoid injury during a perceived bidding war. We've seen this time and time again, Ashley and Kinnear are liars and always will br Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Why did he apologise then? Why did he also accept a fine? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Reckon both parties (club and player) engineered for the move but Ashley took the piss on Cabaye's valuation, the deal fell through and Cabaye was told to take the brunt or he wouldn't get the game time to go to the World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Why did he apologise then? Why did he also accept a fine? World cup season. No time for le sulk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Cabaye confirming what we all knew. As soon as there was some interest in him the club leaks it to all and sundry. I bet he didn't go on strike, rather the club wrapped him in cotton wool to avoid injury during a perceived bidding war. We've seen this time and time again, Ashley and Kinnear are liars and always will br Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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