toondra Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 i don't compare him to ben arfa, ( i watch all the magpies games coz of him ) marveaux when he played at rennes was a very good player of Ligue, lot's of assists, technical, fast player. what i say is that he is for me the second best creator in the team, and people write him off. i honestly hope hatem will reach a better team to express his potential with good players around him. newcastle style of play is simple horrible, and doesn't suit the flair players. If chelsea= mata and arsenal= arteta, for me newcastle= jonas i don't think the style will improve, too many players like williamson, simpson, jonas, ameobi, obertan near the first team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Love how there's no middle ground for some people. Marveaux is either the second coming, or turbo turd and needs shipping out asap. In all his cameos, he has never been as bad as Obertan has been almost every time he's played in the PL. Yet Pardew continues to keep faith that Obertan can eventually come good. It could be that they're working with Marveaux behind the scenes to get him up to scratch. Point is, we don't have a fucking clue, so it's best to give our players the benefit of the doubt before making sweeping judgements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Not too worried about Marveaux as yet. I do think that (from what I've seen of him anyway) that he is a talented enough player so it would be an absolute shame if he doesn't get another chance this season (he should do though, with the amount of games we've got...). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 i don't compare him to ben arfa, ( i watch all the magpies games coz of him ) marveaux when he played at rennes was a very good player of Ligue, lot's of assists, technical, fast player. what i say is that he is for me the second best creator in the team, and people write him off. i honestly hope hatem will reach a better team to express his potential with good players around him. newcastle style of play is simple horrible, and doesn't suit the flair players. If chelsea= mata and arsenal= arteta, for me newcastle= jonas i don't think the style will improve, too many players like williamson, simpson, jonas, ameobi, obertan near the first team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Can't claim to know how the guy is doing is training, but it's a pain in the arse watching Jonas struggle on the wing when this guy's available. If Sammy's getting a look-in ahead of him then you can only assume there's some serious problem with the guy's mentality. All Sammy's got at the moment is a bit of flair and unpredictability; Marveaux's a seasoned professional - at the beginning of the season, i'd have laughed if you told me Sammy was preferred to him. Ferguson too. All a bit disappointing really because he had some flashes of real quality last season. Can recall him looking particularly classy at Villa Park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Love how there's no middle ground for some people. Marveaux is either the second coming, or turbo turd and needs shipping out asap. In all his cameos, he has never been as bad as Obertan has been almost every time he's played in the PL. Yet Pardew continues to keep faith that Obertan can eventually come good. It could be that they're working with Marveaux behind the scenes to get him up to scratch. Point is, we don't have a fucking clue, so it's best to give our players the benefit of the doubt before making sweeping judgements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 At home against all but the top 5 sides Jonas should be behind about 4 players for that spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Love how there's no middle ground for some people. Marveaux is either the second coming, or turbo turd and needs shipping out asap. In all his cameos, he has never been as bad as Obertan has been almost every time he's played in the PL. Yet Pardew continues to keep faith that Obertan can eventually come good. It could be that they're working with Marveaux behind the scenes to get him up to scratch. Point is, we don't have a fucking clue, so it's best to give our players the benefit of the doubt before making sweeping judgements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Still completely baffled why we play 4-4-2 hoofball with 4-3-3 on-the-deck players lol. Of course players like Marveaux aren't going to work in this system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Can't claim to know how the guy is doing is training, but it's a pain in the arse watching Jonas struggle on the wing when this guy's available. If Sammy's getting a look-in ahead of him then you can only assume there's some serious problem with the guy's mentality. All Sammy's got at the moment is a bit of flair and unpredictability; Marveaux's a seasoned professional - at the beginning of the season, i'd have laughed if you told me Sammy was preferred to him. Ferguson too. All a bit disappointing really because he had some flashes of real quality last season. Can recall him looking particularly classy at Villa Park. He only played 10 minutes that day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I know he did, he came on in the second half. Looked to have some really nice technique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Could be that his mind's not in it atm. Didn't his bairn have some health problems a couple of months back, perhaps there's still some complications? I'm guessing this may have a lot to do with why we're not seeing him. Gonna be very hard for him to break into the first team and make an impression if his mind isn't fully focused on football, would make sense for Pardew to keep him out of the firing line until his head is in the right place for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I know he did, he came on in the second half. Looked to have some really nice technique. Tbf, he did well when he came on that game. Put in a beautiful pass for Cabaye right at the death. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8214553/Alan-Pardew-Sylvain-Marveaux-is-in-my-Newcastle-United Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 give him a chance to settle in look how long it took for Colo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 He hasn't even had the games that Colo had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Also, where the fuck is Amalfitano? why does he never get a game? is he injured? Maybe he's not impressed? Not every signing we make will prove successful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Wasn't Amalfitano always one for the future? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Wasn't Amalfitano always one for the future? He's not a kid like. I think he's about 22 so if he was good enough he'd be at least getting some EL time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Wasn't Amalfitano always one for the future? As was the younger Bigi. He's getting games though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Wasn't Amalfitano always one for the future? He's not a kid like. I think he's about 22 so if he was good enough he'd be at least getting some EL time. Clearly he showed some life in preseason but he has taken some time to adjust. Bigi, though younger and getting games now, came from the Championship. Romain, older, had 2 seasons in Ligue 2 in France. The step-up obviously has taken some time, maybe longer/shorter than some thought. Hopefully he'll continue to work hard and we'll see him in the EL and eventually the PL with some time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Wasn't Amalfitano always one for the future? He's not a kid like. I think he's about 22 so if he was good enough he'd be at least getting some EL time. Elliot said that he doesn't speak a word of English so that might have something to do with it. Bedding-in time, etc. Santon hardly played when he first joined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Wasn't Amalfitano always one for the future? He's not a kid like. I think he's about 22 so if he was good enough he'd be at least getting some EL time. the line from the club and french journos was that it would take him at least a season to be ready to fight for a place in the first team squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 The Marveaux situation is a bit odd, we need players like him in the team and were struggling to create much lately. hopefully he'll be back and we'll get to see him tearing defenses apart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I'd like him to start in Brugge to see if he can make an impact on the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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