KaKa Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Chronicle: Sylvain Marveaux is understood to have been told to train with Newcastle United’s youth team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR15 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 It's only Ned, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Chronicle: Sylvain Marveaux is understood to have been told to train with Newcastle United’s youth team Remy's back, Pardew can go back to being the hard man to selected players only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 So we are down two goals, and you send on Ben Arfa and Marv to try and get something back, and you think they're going to go out there and start tracking back? Makes perfect sense. No man, it's because they didn't try hard enough for a guy that unceremoniously dropped one out of the team and unceremoniously dropped the other out of the squad altogether. Until the transfer policy and club structure he backs dropped him in the s*** of course (though without Europa League this season I'm not sure how this is possible) and he needed them. Exactly. What sort of manager brings a player not so much out of the cold as out of deep freeze and expects him to be s*** hot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I think if any player of any club gets made to train with the reserves/youth side, you have to accept the managers viewpoint as you don't know the ins and outs of it all. It's easier to justify things when they are in the spotlight and you get an idea of why they have been put there but nothing has really been made clear with this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I deserved that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I think if any player of any club gets made to train with the reserves/youth side, you have to accept the managers viewpoint as you don't know the ins and outs of it all. It's easier to justify things when they are in the spotlight and you get an idea of why they have been put there but nothing has really been made clear with this one. This literally makes no sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I think if any player of any club gets made to train with the reserves/youth side, you have to accept the managers viewpoint as you don't know the ins and outs of it all. It's easier to justify things when they are in the spotlight and you get an idea of why they have been put there but nothing has really been made clear with this one. I do, Pardew's a cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I think if any player of any club gets made to train with the reserves/youth side, you have to accept the managers viewpoint as you don't know the ins and outs of it all. It's easier to justify things when they are in the spotlight and you get an idea of why they have been put there but nothing has really been made clear with this one. This literally makes no sense. Well he's the one in charge and he's not going to do it just for the fun of it. Say back in school and your mate gets put in detention in another classroom, it's safe to assume the teacher has his reasons even though you don't know what happened. You don't start calling the teacher when he has no reputation for constantly putting people in detention? Not like Pardew has a habit of fall outs and puts players in the reserves often. I'm just saying i'm sure Pardew has his reasons to why Marv has been placed there and until/if things become more clear, you can't really defend Marv even though we all like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I thought that was quite good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Rodgers had Suarez in the reserves earlier in the summer. Wasn't because Rodgers didn't rate Suarez, he just had his reasons to why he thought it was best. It's not a case of defending the player because he's more loved than the manager, Rodger's is in charge and he would have his reasons to why he's done it and you accept that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I think if any player of any club gets made to train with the reserves/youth side, you have to accept the managers viewpoint as you don't know the ins and outs of it all. It's easier to justify things when they are in the spotlight and you get an idea of why they have been put there but nothing has really been made clear with this one. This literally makes no sense. Well he's the one in charge and he's not going to do it just for the fun of it. Say back in school and your mate gets put in detention in another classroom, it's safe to assume the teacher has his reasons even though you don't know what happened. You don't start calling the teacher when he has no reputation for constantly putting people in detention? Not like Pardew has a habit of fall outs and puts players in the reserves often. I'm just saying i'm sure Pardew has his reasons to why Marv has been placed there and until/if things become more clear, you can't really defend Marv even though we all like him. Why do we have to accept Pardew's right and not Marveaux since we don't know the story? Marveaux might have been punished for disagreeing with Pardew's football philosophy or lack of it, in which case I'd be on his side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I thought that was quite good I didn't like the school metaphor, let it down IMO Same here. As a kid your mates were never wrong and the teacher was always wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I thought that was quite good I didn't like the school metaphor, let it down IMO Well place your own little metaphor in there instead and you get the same outcome People jumping in to defend Marv over Pardew, doesn't make sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I thought that was quite good I didn't like the school metaphor, let it down IMO Well place your own little metaphor in there instead and you get the same outcome People jumping in to defend Marv over Pardew, doesn't make sense. Quite shocked you hold this viewpoint if I'm honest, Brett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I thought that was quite good I didn't like the school metaphor, let it down IMO Well place your own little metaphor in there instead and you get the same outcome People jumping in to defend Marv over Pardew, doesn't make sense. One's a cunt, one's a talented footballer being mis-managed. Makes perfect sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Brett was right behind Gullit when he withdrew Robert Lee's squad number and sent him off with the kids. Manager knows best. Good grief. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 People saying you don't know what's gone on but you have to accept a viewpoint. http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/content/images/2007/09/18/bodgerandbadger_1_396x222.jpg Crazy Potatoes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I think if any player of any club gets made to train with the reserves/youth side, you have to accept the managers viewpoint as you don't know the ins and outs of it all. It's easier to justify things when they are in the spotlight and you get an idea of why they have been put there but nothing has really been made clear with this one. This literally makes no sense. Well he's the one in charge and he's not going to do it just for the fun of it. Say back in school and your mate gets put in detention in another classroom, it's safe to assume the teacher has his reasons even though you don't know what happened. You don't start calling the teacher when he has no reputation for constantly putting people in detention? Not like Pardew has a habit of fall outs and puts players in the reserves often. I'm just saying i'm sure Pardew has his reasons to why Marv has been placed there and until/if things become more clear, you can't really defend Marv even though we all like him. Why do we have to accept Pardew's right and not Marveaux since we don't know the story? Marveaux might have been punished for disagreeing with Pardew's football philosophy or lack of it, in which case I'd be on his side. I'm not saying Pardew is right, but he's in charge, accept it and move on until things become more clear. Jumping in to defend Marv and have pops at Pardew seem strange when it's not like Pardew has a habit of falling out with players and doing this. I'm sure he has his reasons to why he feels Marv shouldn't be training with the first team anymore. And this isn't just Pardew, i'd feel the same with any manager unless they were a complete dick who often did this and banish players from the team for their own ego. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I felt Adebayor was being harshly treated by AVB for example because he has a reputation for being a bellend and trying to stamp down his authority and freezes players out. At Newcastle Pardew has never really did that bar Ranger unless i've missed something. I don't know if Pardew or Marv is in the right but i can accept the decision and move on until things become more clearer rather than taking cheap shots at either of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Pardew sees ins and outs everyday therefore his selection for team and tactics is acceptable bc he's the manager and we must accept his insight. No. No. Never Brett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I actually wanted Marv to be the innocent party but after all these comments, hope he's the guilty one now Punched Ben Arfa in the face and called him a fat bastard, if that was the case...the majority will then still think Pardew is in the wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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