TRon Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Ah right, I didn't know he'd mentioned Cabaye in the hole. That could work then, I don't know much of Matuidi's passing range but Tiote could easily play as a deeper passing type. Regarding the centre backs, that's not how my opinion is based at all. I genuinely don't think they are good defenders, Willo started off last season pretty well but was putrid towards the end. Saylor causes far more work for the rest of the defence due to his lack of any positional sense and poor reading of the game. and yet taylor played ok the season we came down, good when he played last season and was the pick of our defenders till he got injured in the championship. he's not world class by any means but the slagging off he gets i'm sure is mainly based on people disliking him personally and a crowd belief (like that of smith playing well at the start of the promtion season that bizzarly many people, even those that went to the match went along with)that once it believes something it can/will not change it's mind even in light of what it actually sees. So do you believe a Taylor/ Williamson partnership would work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 There's no way Taylor 'was the pick of our defenders till he got injured in The Championship' like. He was Ok but Colo head and shoulders above him, as he was last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 M'Vila "would"" be significantly more expensive and more difficult to acquire. i know.... With Nolan going, it'd be good if we could add a bit of height in the midfield, so M'Vila may be a very good buy. It's exciting hearing all these players that can add some attacking flair, but we need some defensive strength at set pieces. Willo and Taylor are our only defenders who are decent in that area, and only one is likely to play. I worry a bit that we may be building a small side who are vulnerable to a sucker punch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 France football After Hatem Ben Arfa, Yohan Cabaye and Sylvain Marveaux, Newcastle could welcome two new members of Ligue 1. The Magpies are indeed interested Blaise Matuidi. The English manager Alan Pardew has confirmed his "great interest" for the 24-year-Etienne but also for the PSG striker, Mevlut Erding, according to L'Equipe. Newcastle could offer nearly 10 million according to the Parisian Turkish striker arrived in Paris in 2009. Cabaye has already joined the British club for 5 million euros, while Marveaux was out of contract at Rennes. (Photo News-Sports) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I feel like a 5 foot 9 athlete like Matuidi would be more useful in the air than a 6 foot lump of immobility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodson Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I'd rather keep Barton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwegianmagpie Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I'd rather keep Barton This. And spend the money on a proper striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 We need to retain Barton at all cost, that "never say die" attitude could go missing in our midfield if we don't have him around, he does have a slick pass on him aswell. if we were to play 433 next season he would 100% be in the midfield three. Needs to shut his trap and erase the "twit" account he has... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Ronaldo....Colo started the promotion season quietly it took him until we were comfortably top to get going and no, in reply to someone else, I don't think a Taylor/williamson combo would work. More to do with styles than not being good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I feel like a 5 foot 9 athlete like Matuidi would be more useful in the air than a 6 foot lump of immobility. ... but might not fare too well against a 6 foot athlete. Normally a team relies a lot on its centre backs with defending crosses and set pieces, and that isn't Colo's strong point, to say the least. Other players had to shoulder the responsibility last year. Just looking at the team we're building, it seems to me nimble and skilful but not particularly strong in the air. I think we're looking for a third midfield player to go alongside Tiote and Cabaye, and we could do with a bit of balance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Our midfield has been over run on too many occasions recently, getting 3 athletic lads in who are comfortable on the ball and having good pace is quite exciting. Especially if we are planning on a quick attacking trio ahead of them who will be allowed a lot of freedom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Come on man... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I feel like a 5 foot 9 athlete like Matuidi would be more useful in the air than a 6 foot lump of immobility. ... but might not fare too well against a 6 foot athlete. Normally a team relies a lot on its centre backs with defending crosses and set pieces, and that isn't Colo's strong point, to say the least. Other players had to shoulder the responsibility last year. Just looking at the team we're building, it seems to me nimble and skilful but not particularly strong in the air. I think we're looking for a third midfield player to go alongside Tiote and Cabaye, and we could do with a bit of balance. It is a concern that we are losing some height through the team, although Marveaux looks quite tall, and Barnetta if he arrives looks similar. Whether they are any good in the air is another matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WashyGeordie Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I feel like a 5 foot 9 athlete like Matuidi would be more useful in the air than a 6 foot lump of immobility. ... but might not fare too well against a 6 foot athlete. Normally a team relies a lot on its centre backs with defending crosses and set pieces, and that isn't Colo's strong point, to say the least. Other players had to shoulder the responsibility last year. Just looking at the team we're building, it seems to me nimble and skilful but not particularly strong in the air. I think we're looking for a third midfield player to go alongside Tiote and Cabaye, and we could do with a bit of balance. It is a concern that we are losing some height through the team, although Marveaux looks quite tall, and Barnetta if he arrives looks similar. Whether they are any good in the air is another matter. Marveaux's the smallest according to wiki at 5ft 7 1/2. Cabaye is 5ft 9 and Barnetta 5ft 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I feel like a 5 foot 9 athlete like Matuidi would be more useful in the air than a 6 foot lump of immobility. ... but might not fare too well against a 6 foot athlete. Normally a team relies a lot on its centre backs with defending crosses and set pieces, and that isn't Colo's strong point, to say the least. Other players had to shoulder the responsibility last year. Just looking at the team we're building, it seems to me nimble and skilful but not particularly strong in the air. I think we're looking for a third midfield player to go alongside Tiote and Cabaye, and we could do with a bit of balance. It is a concern that we are losing some height through the team, although Marveaux looks quite tall, and Barnetta if he arrives looks similar. Whether they are any good in the air is another matter. Well if they aren't good in the air they are going to be struggling, both aren't no taller than 6ft! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 St-Etienne have been linked with about 3-4 midfielders lately so it's inevitable he'll not be there next season. Just hope it's for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 OK, I know very little about him but isn't he a defensive midfielder? Why are we after him? We've got Tiote, and I accept we need cover for him due to inevitable suspensions and ACON duties but aren't we talking about £10m+ here? That's a mighty fee for a position that we've already got a tremendous player playing in. Or do people think we're going to play 2 DMCs? I can't really see that myself. It might be a tactic in some games but not enough to make it practical having 2 top-class DMCs on the books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 OK, I know very little about him but isn't he a defensive midfielder? Why are we after him? We've got Tiote, and I accept we need cover for him due to inevitable suspensions and ACON duties but aren't we talking about £10m+ here? That's a mighty fee for a position that we've already got a tremendous player playing in. Or do people think we're going to play 2 DMCs? I can't really see that myself. It might be a tactic in some games but not enough to make it practical having 2 top-class DMCs on the books. He'll play as part of the midfield three with Tiote and Cabaye. And he's not really a dm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrSundlofer Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 OK, I know very little about him but isn't he a defensive midfielder? Why are we after him? We've got Tiote, and I accept we need cover for him due to inevitable suspensions and ACON duties but aren't we talking about £10m+ here? That's a mighty fee for a position that we've already got a tremendous player playing in. Or do people think we're going to play 2 DMCs? I can't really see that myself. It might be a tactic in some games but not enough to make it practical having 2 top-class DMCs on the books. He'll play as part of the midfield three with Tiote and Cabaye. And he's not really a dm. Michael, you just said he is not a defensive midfielder. Can you please say why he's not a defensive midfielder? Or say what kind of midfielder he is? Have you seen him play? Have you analyzed him? He is a defensive midfielder and has been very important in that position at St. Etienne. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 According to my mate he can get forward a bit too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Saint Etienne already looking at replacements according to the French media. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrSundlofer Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 According to my mate he can get forward a bit too. And...? You didn't answer my question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Saint Etienne already looking at replacements according to the French media. Aye, Clement from PSG and some Congo midfielder who's first name is Prince. Superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 So are we the 'front runners' for this guy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Saint Etienne already looking at replacements according to the French media. http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmsxodaWxP1qafrh6.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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