Mike Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 In 2008/2009, we had a manger resign on September 1st, saw the owner try to sell the club and fail, appointed a certifiable lunatic as manager, saw said lunatic nearly keel over and die to be replaced with somebody with no managerial experience whatsoever, who was then subsequently replaced with no managerial experience whatsoever. After all that, we would have stayed up if a stray ball didn't hit Damien Duff's arse and roll into the net. It takes a lot to get relegated. That said, current events do admittedly look like a promising first step for a new chain along those lines I'm almost nostalgic. What a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Can i change my vote? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 In 2008/2009, we had a manger resign on September 1st, saw the owner try to sell the club and fail, appointed a certifiable lunatic as manager, saw said lunatic nearly keel over and die to be replaced with somebody with no managerial experience whatsoever, who was then subsequently replaced with no managerial experience whatsoever. After all that, we would have stayed up if a stray ball didn't hit Damien Duff's arse and roll into the net. It takes a lot to get relegated. That said, current events do admittedly look like a promising first step for a new chain along those lines I'm almost nostalgic. What a year. That year man. I just wanted the club to somehow be erased from my memory. I didn't want to support a team owned by Mike Ashley and managed by Joe Kinnear. Still paid nearly $1000 to go see us lose to Fulham away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I still think you'll finish in the top 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 In 2008/2009, we had a manger resign on September 1st, saw the owner try to sell the club and fail, appointed a certifiable lunatic as manager, saw said lunatic nearly keel over and die to be replaced with somebody with no managerial experience whatsoever, who was then subsequently replaced with no managerial experience whatsoever. After all that, we would have stayed up if a stray ball didn't hit Damien Duff's arse and roll into the net. It takes a lot to get relegated. That said, current events do admittedly look like a promising first step for a new chain along those lines I'm almost nostalgic. What a year. That year man. I just wanted the club to somehow be erased from my memory. I didn't want to support a team owned by Mike Ashley and managed by Joe Kinnear. Still paid nearly $1000 to go see us lose to Fulham away. If there is no 30 for 30 for that season, ESPN is bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I still think you'll finish in the top 10. Fuck off with your optimism man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I still think you'll finish in the top 10. Fuck off with your optimism man. Going down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Yorkie's addition to the sig. Why is everything either piss or cum? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 What a pre-season.... 1. Nolan is sold 2. Fans invade pitch 3. 3 players are refused visas to USA 4. Hatem Ben Arfa is out for 2 months with injury 5. Jose Enrique twitter outburst 6. Team loses on an artificial pitch to Orlando 7. Rumours of dressing room discontent 8. Cheik Tiote is not present with visa problems 9. A loss to leeds where various players dont feature 10. Joey Barton incident Ideal pre-season? You missed first team players not going to America/coming back early due to the absolute lottery of timescales that is childbirth - I mean it's not like they can pin down a probable period it's due or anything. And not once have we even come close to playing that elusive 'best team' that proves we have improved the squad this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Wasn't Simpson's baby born like 6 weeks early or something? Regardless, that's probably Ashley's fault as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Good point, that never happens. Wouldn't have mattered if he wasn't our only right back like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 This club will never be truly secure as long as Ashley and co are still in charge. I've never really felt secure or optimistic about the club's future since the Keegan fiasco, even when we were romping the Championship and relatively comfortable pretty much for most of last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 20-15th, we sucked so much without barton and nolan last year, no chance we're replacing them,. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 20-15th, we sucked so much without barton and nolan last year, no chance we're replacing them,. You don't think Marveaux, Cabaye and Ben Arfa are good additions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 every season seems to be a make or break for us these days. Dosent even stress me anymore. good season/ relegated - whatever, fuck off Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 20-15th, we sucked so much without barton and nolan last year, no chance we're replacing them,. You don't think Marveaux, Cabaye and Ben Arfa are good additions? That's beside the point. How does taking that stance aid the Cocknee Wankas Out campaign? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpolpol Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Since the removal of Keegan the stripping out of the club of anyone who represents the 'footballing establishment' has been inevitable. Its a good thing that it is finally over today: we can look forward. The reality of a football club to the supporters, to us who love the sign and the proper name; this is nothing like the reality of the club to Ashley and Lambias, two mechanics greasing an abstract machine which monetises signification. What they want to ensure is that the club runs as transparently and efficiently as possible according to their own understanding of it: an understanding which is based on exchanges of money*. As such, it has been necessary to cut out these little islands of resistance, bastions of molar identity like Hughton, Nolan or Barton who try to become loci of power (the value of power is unpredictable, incalculable). Ashley has already faced the worst possible scenario – relegation, and has learned that the club can essentially survive through it. Knowledge that this can happen despite a Faustian pact with the establishment (Shearer!) has given him to freedom to try and cut himself away from orthodoxy. Essentially, he is in a position where the underlying reality (the finance) allows him to try and reform the club according to his own principles. Good. Most of the received opinion which silts up football culture sits between nonsense and platitude. Let's welcome this chance to get beyond this monster called 'football' which becomes like: “A kind of spider of imperative and finality hidden behind the great web, the greater net of causality – we could say, with Charles the Bold when he opposed Louis XI, “I fight the universal spider” (Nietzsche, The Genealogy of Morals). Can we not say, along with Mike, lets fight the spider of banal conventionality in football, this morass of ex-pros who think that their skill with a ball translates into a natural monopoly of all decision making and management functions around the game? The loss of Barton is the jettisoning of the past, and who the fuck wants the past to repeat itself over again? Just because it happened last season, is that sufficient reason to will its return? Anything could happen next season, we've thrown the dice up at noon and will not see them fall until midnight. For my part, I'm glad that we've taken his risk. On the up, 6th. * What is at the base of Ashley’s obsession with the performance-related bonus? Exactly this same impulse. Ashley wants motivation to stem from the possibility of pure exchange – money – rather than from some loyalty to the idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dogbeak Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ze5-XzyMZqY/TZPTbiuDa4I/AAAAAAAAAG0/e6t526R6ZAE/s1600/exploding_head_.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Since the removal of Keegan the stripping out of the club of anyone who represents the 'footballing establishment' has been inevitable. Its a good thing that it is finally over today: we can look forward. The reality of a football club to the supporters, to us who love the sign and the proper name; this is nothing like the reality of the club to Ashley and Lambias, two mechanics greasing an abstract machine which monetises signification. What they want to ensure is that the club runs as transparently and efficiently as possible according to their own understanding of it: an understanding which is based on exchanges of money*. As such, it has been necessary to cut out these little islands of resistance, bastions of molar identity like Hughton, Nolan or Barton who try to become loci of power (the value of power is unpredictable, incalculable). Ashley has already faced the worst possible scenario – relegation, and has learned that the club can essentially survive through it. Knowledge that this can happen despite a Faustian pact with the establishment (Shearer!) has given him to freedom to try and cut himself away from orthodoxy. Essentially, he is in a position where the underlying reality (the finance) allows him to try and reform the club according to his own principles. Good. Most of the received opinion which silts up football culture sits between nonsense and platitude. Let's welcome this chance to get beyond this monster called 'football' which becomes like: “A kind of spider of imperative and finality hidden behind the great web, the greater net of causality – we could say, with Charles the Bold when he opposed Louis XI, “I fight the universal spider” (Nietzsche, The Genealogy of Morals). Can we not say, along with Mike, lets fight the spider of banal conventionality in football, this morass of ex-pros who think that their skill with a ball translates into a natural monopoly of all decision making and management functions around the game? The loss of Barton is the jettisoning of the past, and who the fuck wants the past to repeat itself over again? Just because it happened last season, is that sufficient reason to will its return? Anything could happen next season, we've thrown the dice up at noon and will not see them fall until midnight. For my part, I'm glad that we've taken his risk. On the up, 6th. * What is at the base of Ashley’s obsession with the performance-related bonus? Exactly this same impulse. Ashley wants motivation to stem from the possibility of pure exchange – money – rather than from some loyalty to the idea. Utter load of toss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 20-15th, we sucked so much without barton and nolan last year, no chance we're replacing them,. You don't think Marveaux, Cabaye and Ben Arfa are good additions? Don't know yet, hope they are! (Ben Arfa is, if he can stay fit ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 "Bastions of molar identity." "spider of banal conventionality" For god's sake, shut the fucking hell up with that tripe, you tit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I pretty much hate life when polpolpol starts ranting. At the very least I wish I was illiterate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 "Bastions of molar identity." "spider of banal conventionality" For god's sake, shut the fucking hell up with that tripe, you tit. And they say football has lost its working class roots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I think we've recruited well, and even without Barton and Nolan, we've got a better side than the one that finished last season. I was actually looking forward to the new season as we've potentially got a new, more skilful style as well as new players. The Nolan-Barton-Enrique incidents have left a bad taste in the mouth, and it needs the new side to bond and rally together. Whether Colo is the man to do that particular job, I'm not sure, but the new lads all seem keen. This last week has been depressing but, in football, moods can change very quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I just want to be going to football matches again, for better or worse. It's the only cure for the insanity of the off-season and all the bollocks going on away from the football pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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