mrmojorisin75 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 if mclaren's overall plan is to protect aarons a little bit from injury/expectation while throwing obertan to the wolves then i'm all for it....we can't have aarons getting crippled like last year perez is more baffling, and i don't like what's going on there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Don't mean to defend the lad as I want him out as much as anybody, but he put a few fairly aggressive sliding tackles in yesterday, which surprised me. In bursts he did do this, but generally he just stands around not having the slightest clue what to do. He's one of the crappest players off the ball I've ever seen. Even more so when we've got possession. Can't abide him in the team. Is shite and will be released at the end of the season, sooner we have other players playing instead of him the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 McClaren will soon learn that one swallow doesn't make a summer. Obertan had his customary one off good game, he'll soon revert to type and be out of the team. He's just not got the character to really go for it, even on Sunday he got progressively worse after a flying start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I disagree with his decision but I respect the mentality behind it. About time we used the fret of our wide players (at least in terms of Obertan's pace) to try and peg opposition fullbacks back, as opposed to using them as secondary fullbacks. Still think Aarons would've been better suited to that like. This. would rather he do this any day of the week than have Gouffran out there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Say what you want about Obertan but... that cross was unreal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Say what you want about Obertan but... that cross was unreal. I'm hoping that one moment of insanity doesn't earn him a new deal here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Say what you want about Obertan but... that cross was unreal. I'm hoping that one moment of insanity doesn't earn him a new deal here. I'm hoping it doesn't stop them peddling him in this transfer window ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Say what you want about Obertan but... that cross was unreal. I'm hoping that one moment of insanity doesn't earn him a new deal here. I'm hoping it doesn't stop them peddling him in this transfer window ffs Looks like it has, Craig Hope says they want rid of Gouffran now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Say what you want about Obertan but... that cross was unreal. I'm hoping that one moment of insanity doesn't earn him a new deal here. I'm hoping it doesn't stop them peddling him in this transfer window ffs Looks like it has, Craig Hope says they want rid of Gouffran now ah well, if it's a choice between binning one of them i'd live with obertan staying until his contract runs down tbh, that cross on sunday is probably more than gouffran will contribute the rest of the season if he starts every week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I would definitely rather than keep Obertan at the moment, even though Gouff was a much better player at one point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I would definitely rather than keep Obertan at the moment, even though Gouff was a much better player at one point. He's never going to be that player again, doesn't even look remotely interested in trying to get back in form. Just wants to pick up his wage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm hoping Steve Mc doesn't embark on a personal crusade to be known as the bloke who may unlock whatever potential this brainless chicken of a footballer supposedly showed yonks ago. My fear is the manager may have fallen in love with his pre-Man Utd credentials/resume ie Clairfontaine graduate, the youth international caps. Didn't somebody like Blanc once comment (on Obertan, what he showed at French Yth Lvl) that he lacked mental toughness & self belief. These frailties are on display at his constant reluctance to go after the fullback's jugular, and not use his speed. Aarons on the otherhand is ruthless, a tormenter - the wing is arguably the most isolated one-on-one positional battle on the pitch, and not one for gutless types who may train well (a training drill king, somebosy who effortlessly beats cones) but ultimately freeze up on match-day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 A bit of improvement on his defending and covering for the left back and he might prove a useful player, but would much rather we brought Aarons on instead... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm hoping Steve Mc doesn't embark on a personal crusade to be known as the bloke who may unlock whatever potential this brainless chicken of a footballer supposedly showed yonks ago. My fear is the manager may have fallen in love with his pre-Man Utd credentials/resume ie Clairfontaine graduate, the youth international caps. Didn't somebody like Blanc once comment (on Obertan, what he showed at French Yth Lvl) that he lacked mental toughness & self belief. These frailties are on display at his constant reluctance to go after the fullback's jugular, and not use his speed. Aarons on the otherhand is ruthless, a tormenter - the wing is arguably the most isolated one-on-one positional battle on the pitch, and not one for gutless types who may train well (a training drill king, somebosy who effortlessly beats cones) but ultimately freeze up on match-day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Say it ain't so: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gabriel-obertan-wants-stay-newcastle-9853997?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Say it ain't so: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gabriel-obertan-wants-stay-newcastle-9853997?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Urgh, not surprised. Early mistake from McClaren. More so because he'll start and hinder better players. He'll be found out soon hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Rank stupidity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Need him to hurry up and get injured if this is the shit we're going to have to put up with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Need him to hurry up and get injured if this is the s*** we're going to have to put up with. He will do but no doubt after the window has closed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 He needs to repeat that game last season where he was shit hot for 20 minutes then tore his hamstring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Say it ain't so: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gabriel-obertan-wants-stay-newcastle-9853997?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Of course he wants to stay, no one will pay him as much as we do. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 He needs to repeat that game last season where he was shit hot for 20 minutes then tore his hamstring. He was actually not-completely-shit around that time for a few games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Say it ain't so: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gabriel-obertan-wants-stay-newcastle-9853997?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Of course he wants to stay, no one will pay him as much as we do. :lol: Eggsactly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 If we're going to offload Obertan the best way is to play him during the transfer window, when his fitness is good and he may fluke a few good things. We may get a buyer. If that's McClaren's idea I'm all for it. I'm sure Sir Bob put a few players in the shop window by making others think they were in his first team plans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 If we're going to offload Obertan the best way is to play him during the transfer window, when his fitness is good and he may fluke a few good things. We may get a buyer. If that's McClaren's idea I'm all for it. I'm sure Sir Bob put a few players in the shop window by making others think they were in his first team plans. I reckon he rates him. You can see what McClaren has done with players he doesn't rate. Fair play to him for that, but Obertan should be treated just like Williamson and Gouffran. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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