AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I would have said Nathan Dyer was a forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Sorry like but he isn't a winger. He is a 433 forward. Nathan Dyer and Jesus Navas are orthodox wingers. Gabriel Obertan is a channel forward made to cut inside and provide a few tricks. He doesn't have the directness of an orthodox winger. Edit: He could easily have the physical attributes to be a winger of course. What I mean though is that throughout his footballing education he hasn't been moulded or groomed to be a winger. Pardew is just completely mis-using him. Agree completely. Should be left side of a front three in a 4-3-3. The very position he did so well from to get the goal. Willing to bet good money that if used in that position consistently, then he would dramatically increase his end product in terms of goals and assists for us in our current situation. Pardew is too short-sighted and ignorant to see it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I wonder how long this "renaissance" will last? Don't think he is suddenly going to become a good player somehow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Nonsense. He's unplayable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I wonder how long this "renaissance" will last? Don't think he is suddenly going to become a good player somehow. It wasn't really until 26-27 that something clicked with Routledge and he transformed from a very good Championship player to a good solid Premier League player. It's a long shot but if Obertan sorts his head out, he has the raw attributes to have a fair career still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I'd rather play Ryan Taylor wide on the right than Obertan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I wonder how long this "renaissance" will last? Don't think he is suddenly going to become a good player somehow. It wasn't really until 26-27 that something clicked with Routledge and he transformed from a very good Championship player to a good solid Premier League player. It's a long shot but if Obertan sorts his head out, he has the raw attributes to have a fair career still. You really are optimistic. Hope you are right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 He was the best player on the pitch by a mile yesterday. However the ability to get away from opposition defenders and carry the ball forward in any sort of incisive thrust into opposing territory will risk losing possession and will not be tolerated by Pardew. Until he reverts to his old way of turning round and passing it back or sideways to where the mass of our defensive formation is he will have no chance of starting a game. After last weeks performance he must now be close to being dropped Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I'd rather play Ryan Taylor wide on the right than Obertan. You what mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Maybe I'm going senile but I honestly wouldn't mind seeing Haidara given a few games on the left-wing position. I think it's pretty clear that the strongest part of his game is going forward, he's a natural left-footer and he surely couldn't offer any less than Gouffran. Plus he'll track back plenty to keep Pardew happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Maybe I'm going senile but I honestly wouldn't mind seeing Haidara given a few games on the left-wing position. I think it's pretty clear that the strongest part of his game is going forward, he's a natural left-footer and he surely couldn't offer any less than Gouffran. Plus he'll track back plenty to keep Pardew happy. Do fullbacks ever play well on the wing though? I can't think of any real examples. A lot easier to attack coming from deep on the overlap than it is starting as a winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Domi did well there under Robson second half of the 99-00 season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Maybe I'm going senile but I honestly wouldn't mind seeing Haidara given a few games on the left-wing position. I think it's pretty clear that the strongest part of his game is going forward, he's a natural left-footer and he surely couldn't offer any less than Gouffran. Plus he'll track back plenty to keep Pardew happy. Do fullbacks ever play well on the wing though? I can't think of any real examples. A lot easier to attack coming from deep on the overlap than it is starting as a winger. Garef Baiu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Maybe I'm going senile but I honestly wouldn't mind seeing Haidara given a few games on the left-wing position. I think it's pretty clear that the strongest part of his game is going forward, he's a natural left-footer and he surely couldn't offer any less than Gouffran. Plus he'll track back plenty to keep Pardew happy. Do fullbacks ever play well on the wing though? I can't think of any real examples. A lot easier to attack coming from deep on the overlap than it is starting as a winger. Bale's alright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Maybe I'm going senile but I honestly wouldn't mind seeing Haidara given a few games on the left-wing position. I think it's pretty clear that the strongest part of his game is going forward, he's a natural left-footer and he surely couldn't offer any less than Gouffran. Plus he'll track back plenty to keep Pardew happy. Do fullbacks ever play well on the wing though? I can't think of any real examples. A lot easier to attack coming from deep on the overlap than it is starting as a winger. Bale's alright. Not bad at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'd rather play Ryan Taylor wide on the right than Obertan. You what mate I'd have thought it was fairly self explanatory. Ryan Taylor, yeah? The mediocre full back whose leg fell off, well in my opinion I believe we'd be better off playing him than Obertan. And by better off I don't mean good, I mean less shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'd rather play Ryan Taylor wide on the right than Obertan. You what mate I'd have thought it was fairly self explanatory. Ryan Taylor, yeah? The mediocre full back whose leg fell off, well in my opinion I believe we'd be better off playing him than Obertan. And by better off I don't mean good, I mean less s***. You what mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 When we're playing a side worse than us, at home, like last week then we can get away with playing Obertan. Unfortunately for the other 36 league games starting this mong is suicidal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 He's actually looked like a footbaer this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 He's actually looked like a footbaer this season. Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 He's actually looked like a footbaer this season. Which one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I've had no problem with him this season, even if he shouldn't have been given a chance to play as he has. Surprised at how many headers he won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 'I only won here once with Manchester' Trolling the City fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 He's actually looked like a footbaer this season. Really? http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs15/f/2007/035/b/b/belisha_beacon_by_Naya812.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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