Marmoset Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Classic danger sign on a youtube vid is when they cut the clip short after a bit of skill, before you get to see what the player actually ends up doing with the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 His assist block was the only decent thing he did, otherwise he did exactly as Crumpy says, passed it straight back to whoever gave him it like it was a hot potato. *Colback Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Don't mean to defend the lad as I want him out as much as anybody, but he put a few fairly aggressive sliding tackles in yesterday, which surprised me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 When asked why he picked Obertan over fan favourite Rolando Aarons, McClaren said: “It was tactical really in aspect to Cedric Soares, who is a hell of an attacking full-back and we wanted somebody to stay wide and curb that. “I think he (Obertan) did it that well. Southampton took Soares off at half-time and changed him. “We have been trying to get him to do that a bit more.” Not sure I agree with that, especially considering their first goal. And they took him off before he was sent off IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 When asked why he picked Obertan over fan favourite Rolando Aarons, McClaren said: “It was tactical really in aspect to Cedric Soares, who is a hell of an attacking full-back and we wanted somebody to stay wide and curb that. “I think he (Obertan) did it that well. Southampton took Soares off at half-time and changed him. “We have been trying to get him to do that a bit more.” Not sure I agree with that, especially considering their first goal. And they took him off before he was sent off IMO. Obertan did naff all to try and attack Cedric when he was on a yellow card, most wingers with a brain would have tried to do that as often as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I disagree with his decision but I respect the mentality behind it. About time we used the fret of our wide players (at least in terms of Obertan's pace) to try and peg opposition fullbacks back, as opposed to using them as secondary fullbacks. Still think Aarons would've been better suited to that like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 When asked why he picked Obertan over fan favourite Rolando Aarons, McClaren said: “It was tactical really in aspect to Cedric Soares, who is a hell of an attacking full-back and we wanted somebody to stay wide and curb that. “I think he (Obertan) did it that well. Southampton took Soares off at half-time and changed him. “We have been trying to get him to do that a bit more.” Not sure I agree with that, especially considering their first goal. And they took him off before he was sent off IMO. Disappointing stuff. If he did it to be careful with Aarons, he'd just say that + big up what Obertan has done in training. Seems like he actually rates him. If he thinks Obertan copes the best with attacking full backs, he'll play against the best teams. He'll play anyway now though, thanks to that assist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I disagree with his decision but I respect the mentality behind it. About time we used the fret of our wide players (at least in terms of Obertan's pace) to try and peg opposition fullbacks back, as opposed to using them as secondary fullbacks. Still think Aarons would've been better suited to that like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 if mclaren's overall plan is to protect aarons a little bit from injury/expectation while throwing obertan to the wolves then i'm all for it....we can't have aarons getting crippled like last year perez is more baffling, and i don't like what's going on there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Don't mean to defend the lad as I want him out as much as anybody, but he put a few fairly aggressive sliding tackles in yesterday, which surprised me. In bursts he did do this, but generally he just stands around not having the slightest clue what to do. He's one of the crappest players off the ball I've ever seen. Even more so when we've got possession. Can't abide him in the team. Is shite and will be released at the end of the season, sooner we have other players playing instead of him the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 McClaren will soon learn that one swallow doesn't make a summer. Obertan had his customary one off good game, he'll soon revert to type and be out of the team. He's just not got the character to really go for it, even on Sunday he got progressively worse after a flying start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I disagree with his decision but I respect the mentality behind it. About time we used the fret of our wide players (at least in terms of Obertan's pace) to try and peg opposition fullbacks back, as opposed to using them as secondary fullbacks. Still think Aarons would've been better suited to that like. This. would rather he do this any day of the week than have Gouffran out there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Say what you want about Obertan but... that cross was unreal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Say what you want about Obertan but... that cross was unreal. I'm hoping that one moment of insanity doesn't earn him a new deal here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Say what you want about Obertan but... that cross was unreal. I'm hoping that one moment of insanity doesn't earn him a new deal here. I'm hoping it doesn't stop them peddling him in this transfer window ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Say what you want about Obertan but... that cross was unreal. I'm hoping that one moment of insanity doesn't earn him a new deal here. I'm hoping it doesn't stop them peddling him in this transfer window ffs Looks like it has, Craig Hope says they want rid of Gouffran now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Say what you want about Obertan but... that cross was unreal. I'm hoping that one moment of insanity doesn't earn him a new deal here. I'm hoping it doesn't stop them peddling him in this transfer window ffs Looks like it has, Craig Hope says they want rid of Gouffran now ah well, if it's a choice between binning one of them i'd live with obertan staying until his contract runs down tbh, that cross on sunday is probably more than gouffran will contribute the rest of the season if he starts every week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I would definitely rather than keep Obertan at the moment, even though Gouff was a much better player at one point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I would definitely rather than keep Obertan at the moment, even though Gouff was a much better player at one point. He's never going to be that player again, doesn't even look remotely interested in trying to get back in form. Just wants to pick up his wage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm hoping Steve Mc doesn't embark on a personal crusade to be known as the bloke who may unlock whatever potential this brainless chicken of a footballer supposedly showed yonks ago. My fear is the manager may have fallen in love with his pre-Man Utd credentials/resume ie Clairfontaine graduate, the youth international caps. Didn't somebody like Blanc once comment (on Obertan, what he showed at French Yth Lvl) that he lacked mental toughness & self belief. These frailties are on display at his constant reluctance to go after the fullback's jugular, and not use his speed. Aarons on the otherhand is ruthless, a tormenter - the wing is arguably the most isolated one-on-one positional battle on the pitch, and not one for gutless types who may train well (a training drill king, somebosy who effortlessly beats cones) but ultimately freeze up on match-day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 A bit of improvement on his defending and covering for the left back and he might prove a useful player, but would much rather we brought Aarons on instead... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm hoping Steve Mc doesn't embark on a personal crusade to be known as the bloke who may unlock whatever potential this brainless chicken of a footballer supposedly showed yonks ago. My fear is the manager may have fallen in love with his pre-Man Utd credentials/resume ie Clairfontaine graduate, the youth international caps. Didn't somebody like Blanc once comment (on Obertan, what he showed at French Yth Lvl) that he lacked mental toughness & self belief. These frailties are on display at his constant reluctance to go after the fullback's jugular, and not use his speed. Aarons on the otherhand is ruthless, a tormenter - the wing is arguably the most isolated one-on-one positional battle on the pitch, and not one for gutless types who may train well (a training drill king, somebosy who effortlessly beats cones) but ultimately freeze up on match-day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Say it ain't so: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gabriel-obertan-wants-stay-newcastle-9853997?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Say it ain't so: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gabriel-obertan-wants-stay-newcastle-9853997?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Urgh, not surprised. Early mistake from McClaren. More so because he'll start and hinder better players. He'll be found out soon hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Rank stupidity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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