Geordie Ahmed Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Watching it live I just thought - that's a great goal fashioned out of nothing. Didn't really strike me as an Elliot mistake and still doesn't tbh. Lovely goal. And based on this game alone, despite the pelters being thrown at Elliot, he was still a fair bit better than the other (far more lauded) keeper on the pitch. Being better than a keeper that had a mare (and has errors in his game) is not really the benchmark we should be using I would want my keeper to save that at this level BUT we know speed is not one of his strengths, like Harper he takes too long to get down and it wasn't even struck with that much power either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 If yesterday was in any way indicative of Forster and not just a blip then it's astonishing how both he and Krul have regressed over the last few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 As obviously limited as I think Manquillo is, I think it's canny mad how people are criticising him for doing exactly what imo he should have done. The only thing he didn't do was block the shot, which he still attempted to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Aye he’s so shaky from set plays. Apart for a period of 28 months with Krul - all of our keepers in recent memory have had this shortcoming. Likewise all of our keepers in recent memories have poor distribution. The lads that have it all don’t play for Newcastle. Good reflexes / shot stopper Doesn’t drop clangers often Commands area Distribution I think at our budget level unless a genius stroke of a signing the best we can hope for is 2 out of the 4 with being ok at the other 2. None of our goalkeepers are good at more than 1 of those things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 As obviously limited as I think Manquillo is, I think it's canny mad how people are criticising him for doing exactly what imo he should have done. The only thing he didn't do was block the shot, which he still attempted to do. Do you not think he should have got tighter to Gabbiadini? Think he allowed him too much space personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 As obviously limited as I think Manquillo is, I think it's canny mad how people are criticising him for doing exactly what imo he should have done. The only thing he didn't do was block the shot, which he still attempted to do. Aye he’s in the box the best he can hope for is a block and taking him away from danger area. A better player and he blocks it. A better goalie saves it. But overall he needed more support. Once it’s gome through his legs it’s very difficult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 keeper should have saved the 1st equaliser all day long.it trundled along the ground and he was like a snail going down for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 As obviously limited as I think Manquillo is, I think it's canny mad how people are criticising him for doing exactly what imo he should have done. The only thing he didn't do was block the shot, which he still attempted to do. Do you not think he should have got tighter to Gabbiadini? Think he allowed him too much space personally. Yeh maybe but that goes into penalty territory. He needed help primarily. Gabbiadini bs Manquillo 1v1 like that in the box isn’t favourable to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 As obviously limited as I think Manquillo is, I think it's canny mad how people are criticising him for doing exactly what imo he should have done. The only thing he didn't do was block the shot, which he still attempted to do. Do you not think he should have got tighter to Gabbiadini? Think he allowed him too much space personally. Too tight and he risks giving away a penalty, too much space and he's in on goal. Personally I think shepherding him away from goal was exactly the right thing to do. The shot going through his legs was unlucky for him, these things happen and can't always be cut out. In that situation you're relying on your 'keeper to save what was a tame effort on his near post to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Can agree to disagree - think he did exactly the right thing in shepherding him away, but I just think you've got to be tighter to your man in the box there. I don't think you should be giving the opposition the space to turn and hit it that close to goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Have to say thought some of the other defenders could have pushed out to close down the space, Manquillo forced him away from goal but a bit of extra support rather than ball watching would have helped. Either way I'd fancy 90% of Premier League keepers to have got down to that one. That and his diabolical punch attempt from a corner when Van Djik should have scored meant he was pretty poor again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 You don't shepherd your man more central to the goal. It give him an easier shot on goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Yeah I think he needed to be putting Gabbiadini onto his right foot there, not guiding him inside onto his strongest foot for a free shot on goal. Maybe someone else could have done better to get across and give him a hand like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 As obviously limited as I think Manquillo is, I think it's canny mad how people are criticising him for doing exactly what imo he should have done. The only thing he didn't do was block the shot, which he still attempted to do. Do you not think he should have got tighter to Gabbiadini? Think he allowed him too much space personally. Not really. He was tight enough to Gabbiadini make the block; the issue was that the shot was placed through his legs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Tbh, the thing that keeps getting ignored here is that regardless of your thoughts on what Manquillo should and shouldn't have done, Elliott should still have saved what was a weak shot on his side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 As obviously limited as I think Manquillo is, I think it's canny mad how people are criticising him for doing exactly what imo he should have done. The only thing he didn't do was block the shot, which he still attempted to do. Given the starting position he should never have allowed him to a. get into a shooting position and b. actually get the shot off. Shocking defending imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 The shot was struck with a similar pace to that which Beardsley scored a load of goals with. It was a very clever goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 At the end of the day both of them fucked up and neither are good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 He didn't do anything wrong apart from have Domino's on speed dial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 He didn't do anything wrong apart from have Domino's on speed dial. I've had Domino's pizzas arrive faster than Elliot gets to ground like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 They are both in a box, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 They are both in a box, like. And both round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Covered in saturated fat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 He's so fucking shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I've stuck up for him as he has had a decent start to the season but he was way too slow getting down for that shot yesterday mind, it was a tame shot that should have been dealt with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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