jdckelly Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 if we were replacing him with a cb and rb even young ones I actually wouldn't care if he was going or not but the fact he's going without anything resembling a replacement when the squad is short to begin with is utter madness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 It's all about trimming the fat, scraping numbers off the bottom to make the NET profit that little bit healthier, same as any decision made by the club these days, what's going to get us more money? No more wages for a player that no longer features much, fuck the footballing considerations, less wages and a small fee for the accounts is all important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I can only assume the people saying he's shit are the same ones who have previously called Cabella, Sissoko, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Debuchy etc etc etc the same at various points in their Newcastle career under Alan Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 So now we have Janmaat and Haidara as our only real full time full backs. You'd think we'd need Dummet to cover centre back with yanga mbiwa going. Even if Dummet covers both positions to some extent, we're just short of players. You'd expect a premier league club to keep eight first team defenders. We've probably got six at best and that's if you include the chronically injury prone forms of Steven and Ryan Taylor. I don't think Santon was someone we'd badly miss if we had any kind of squad, but the timing of the decision with the state of our defence is abysmal as always. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I can only assume the people saying he's s*** are the same ones who have previously called Cabella, Sissoko, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Debuchy etc etc etc the same at various points in their Newcastle career under Alan Pardew. it wasn't that long ago people were raving about his performances, people forget about players being Pardewed, he's young enough to recover. I certainly don't think he should go over the likes of Dumbshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I assume the club look at each aspect of income / turnover and try to achieve greater gains in each sector each year. The sale of players being a less controllable way of making a certain profit, I suspect this is more to do with keeping the players' contracts down below a certain level. That seems like the only way this has any real value to it. It isn't just €4million for the sale it's the lack of cost for the next year. Which probably doubles the value of this from the clubs point of view. I don't agree with it like, but that's the way these cunts want it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I assume the club look at each aspect of income / turnover and try to achieve greater gains in each sector each year. The sale of players being a less controllable way of making a certain profit, I suspect this is more to do with keeping the players' contracts down below a certain level. That seems like the only way this has any real value to it. It isn't just €4million for the sale it's the lack of cost for the next year. Which probably doubles the value of this from the clubs point of view. I don't agree with it like, but that's the way these c***s want it. Well, from a business prospective it makes sense, from a fan point of view and wanting to at least build a team that can play and hold its own in the prem its disastrous. Constantly cycling and flipping players for money. Nothing ever imporves and the team never really imporve. Its just steady as she goes while Ashley uses the club to advertise his tat and he has a little but of fun on the way playing football manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillClinton Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 So we have 5 defenders for the rest of the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I assume the club look at each aspect of income / turnover and try to achieve greater gains in each sector each year. The sale of players being a less controllable way of making a certain profit, I suspect this is more to do with keeping the players' contracts down below a certain level. That seems like the only way this has any real value to it. It isn't just €4million for the sale it's the lack of cost for the next year. Which probably doubles the value of this from the clubs point of view. I don't agree with it like, but that's the way these c***s want it. True. For most normal clubs that wouldn't factor in because they'd plan to be paying someone to take his place in the squad anyway. For our board that might not be such an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 So we have 5 defenders for the rest of the season? Coloccini, Williamson, Dummett, Janmaat, Haidara, Anita, Colback, Raylor, Gouffran, Ayoze, Cisse, and Alnwick. So more like 12. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Hopefully the Carver doesn't have any wild LvG 5-3-2 ambitions. That'd be every defender on the pitch, given I'm assuming Saylor is only good for the glue factory. Haidara Jaanmaaaat Dummett Colo Willo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Relying on Saska, streete and Good to fill out our cb options (colo, willow and Dummett) grim. Zero chance of a replacement for Santon, janmaat and Taylor at RB. Haidara and Dummy at LB. Then the likes of Anita, colback, Gutierrez and the younglings to fill in. Given the chaff below us in the table they will be more than happy to limp on to seasons end and maybe pick up a freebie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 These guys (Saska, Streete and Good) should have been introduced into the first team by now, at least intermittently. I blame Pardew. I bet at least one of them is better than Willo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 They could be world class knowing Pardew, but he can't float a ball to the back post to them. They could also all be absolute lemons knowing the hit and miss nature of transfers at this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I can't say I've got a great deal of hope for our youth CB options, although I will admit that I've probably seen them play for a grand total of about 2 hours. Satka for one needs to double his body weight if he's expected to compete in the Xtreme Premier League. I guess he has plenty of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Very sad indeed. Always like Santon, seemed to care about the club and one of only a very small few that would be bothered that we got beat. I do however wonder if his injuries are more serious than we know. He could easily have lost a lot of pace and why we've not played him even if he's fully fit. I hope not for him, but does make some kind of sense of the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 There's no sense to be made of the situation, the club wanted money and that's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Very sad indeed. Always like Santon, seemed to care about the club and one of only a very small few that would be bothered that we got beat. I do however wonder if his injuries are more serious than we know. He could easily have lost a lot of pace and why we've not played him even if he's fully fit. I hope not for him, but does make some kind of sense of the situation. Never gonna fit in with the club culture with an attitude like that. Probably best to get shot, dressing room harmony, blah blah etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Very sad indeed. Always like Santon, seemed to care about the club and one of only a very small few that would be bothered that we got beat. I do however wonder if his injuries are more serious than we know. He could easily have lost a lot of pace and why we've not played him even if he's fully fit. I hope not for him, but does make some kind of sense of the situation. Remember him apologising to the Gallowgate the match after his rick against Benfica. Rare to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Another good guy and likeable player out. Brilliant. Great piece of business Mike. Few million straight in the pocket. We'll stay up anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Yet another young, talented player exits the club without ever fulfilling any of his potential with us. I don't know why we bother getting excited over signings anymore as we know that 90% will end this way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardy1963 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I'll miss Santon. I had to check my older posts - December 2012 I penned a song about him. I said at the time that he had been just about our most consistent player that season. Things did start to slide however, both performances and the injuries. For me though, it really is just bizarre how so many players hit a peak and then drop off significantly - we can all name quite a few! Will this change now that Pardew has gone? Who knows. But if in a few short weeks Santon is getting regular starts in Serie A, and is high up the rankings like Mbiwa, then it should give an absolutely definitive answer that something is / has been very, very wrong in the coaching / playing side of the club. There's bugger all anyone can realistically do about the running of the club by the fat man, evidenced again by the loss of another good, young footballer. But hopefully changes will start to happen on the coaching / training front. Not that I'm holding my breath! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Relying on Saska, streete and Good to fill out our cb options (colo, willow and Dummett) grim. Zero chance of a replacement for Santon, janmaat and Taylor at RB. Haidara and Dummy at LB. Then the likes of Anita, colback, Gutierrez and the younglings to fill in. Given the chaff below us in the table they will be more than happy to limp on to seasons end and maybe pick up a freebie. on their way to Rangers (maybe) according to ssn so no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 SanToon needs to officially change to ManDoon and be done with it. Or Santi, as I call him from time to time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 I remember him coming over to us after we lost to Southampton in one of the worst away performances I've ever seen. Seemed to actually give a shit about this club and it's fans. So grim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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