NG32 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Course its not true, Virgin said they'd match what Wonga had to offer if we'd had spoken to them first. If it was less they'd have said so. Dear me, any old s**** gets past of as fact these days. Take it up with the site they got the information from Bergerac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Does that figure include the naming rights and the money they are supposed to be investing in local area and the academy. probably not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Course its not true, Virgin said they'd match what Wonga had to offer if we'd had spoken to them first. If it was less they'd have said so. Dear me, any old shite gets past of as fact these days. Virgin were never informed how much Wonga were willing to pay, they were simply told that the deal would be ending and the club weren't prepared to listen to an offer from them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Course its not true, Virgin said they'd match what Wonga had to offer if we'd had spoken to them first. If it was less they'd have said so. Dear me, any old shite gets past of as fact these days. It says Virgin were never given the opportunity to compete in the article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Course its not true, Virgin said they'd match what Wonga had to offer if we'd had spoken to them first. If it was less they'd have said so. Dear me, any old shite gets past of as fact these days. The article says otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Course its not true, Virgin said they'd match what Wonga had to offer if we'd had spoken to them first. If it was less they'd have said so. Dear me, any old shite gets past of as fact these days. Virgin were never informed how much Wonga were willing to pay, they were simply told that the deal would be ending and the club weren't prepared to listen to an offer from them. That is correct, they also said they would have been willing to match any offer. This was after the Wonga deal was announced, therefore they could have easily stuck the boot in and said why accept a lower offer, which no one mentioned at all at the time? It is also widely accepted we are receiving £8m a year without any clauses while receiving addons for the youth academy and other projects. So the article is wrong however you look at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 You heard of something called a law binding agreement? That's what happens on multi million deals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 http://replygif.net/i/665.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Course its not true, Virgin said they'd match what Wonga had to offer if we'd had spoken to them first. If it was less they'd have said so. Dear me, any old shite gets past of as fact these days. Virgin were never informed how much Wonga were willing to pay, they were simply told that the deal would be ending and the club weren't prepared to listen to an offer from them. That is correct, they also said they would have been willing to match any offer. This was after the Wonga deal was announced, therefore they could have easily stuck the boot in and said why accept a lower offer, which no one mentioned at all at the time? It is also widely accepted we are receiving £8m a year without any clauses while receiving addons for the youth academy and other projects. So the article is wrong however you look at it. I didn't hear that bit, and it's easy for them to say that after the fact, but do we really think they would have matched ANY offer? Not a very clever way to run a business. I'm still not seeing anything that makes me think Virgin knew how much Wonga were paying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Course its not true, Virgin said they'd match what Wonga had to offer if we'd had spoken to them first. If it was less they'd have said so. Dear me, any old shite gets past of as fact these days. Virgin were never informed how much Wonga were willing to pay, they were simply told that the deal would be ending and the club weren't prepared to listen to an offer from them. That is correct, they also said they would have been willing to match any offer. This was after the Wonga deal was announced, therefore they could have easily stuck the boot in and said why accept a lower offer, which no one mentioned at all at the time? It is also widely accepted we are receiving £8m a year without any clauses while receiving addons for the youth academy and other projects. So the article is wrong however you look at it. I didn't hear that bit, and it's easy for them to say that after the fact, but do we really think they would have matched ANY offer? Not a very clever way to run a business. I'm still not seeing anything that makes me think Virgin knew how much Wonga were paying. They didn't it was done behind their backs but after the deal came to light they said this, they could have easily said why stop a deal and accept less? There would have been a massive kick off on here and in the media ans why I know it didn't happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 You heard of something called a law binding agreement? That's what happens on multi million deals. Have you heard yourself man? All of you. Mike Ashley the man obsessed with money goes out of his way to accept a lower offer to what, piss off the fans and drag the name of the club through the mud because its good advertising Any more conspiracies you got while we are at it? Mike Ashley behind 9/11 so he could sell more secure luggage? He invented Bird Flu so he could sell trainers to run away from swans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 You heard of something called a law binding agreement? That's what happens on multi million deals. Have you heard yourself man? All of you. Mike Ashley the man obsessed with money goes out of his way to accept a lower offer to what, p*ss off the fans and drag the name of the club through the mud because its good advertising Any more conspiracies you got while we are at it? Mike Ashley behind 9/11 so he could sell more secure luggage? He invented Bird Flu so he could sell trainers to run away from swans? Calling Womblemaster! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 You heard of something called a law binding agreement? That's what happens on multi million deals. Have you heard yourself man? All of you. Mike Ashley the man obsessed with money goes out of his way to accept a lower offer to what, piss off the fans and drag the name of the club through the mud because its good advertising Any more conspiracies you got while we are at it? Mike Ashley behind 9/11 so he could sell more secure luggage? He invented Bird Flu so he could sell trainers to run away from swans? It's funny you should mention swans, Ashley feeds beefburgers to swans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 You heard of something called a law binding agreement? That's what happens on multi million deals. Have you heard yourself man? All of you. Mike Ashley the man obsessed with money goes out of his way to accept a lower offer to what, piss off the fans and drag the name of the club through the mud because its good advertising Any more conspiracies you got while we are at it? Mike Ashley behind 9/11 so he could sell more secure luggage? He invented Bird Flu so he could sell trainers to run away from swans? It's funny you should mention swans, Ashley feeds beefburgers to swans. It was Ashley who put the horses in the burgers which went in the swans. Horseburgerswanception Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I believe that article much more than you TT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Ill believe everywhere else and be in the comfort that if you don't agree then I'm on the right track. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19926172 It's thought the contract is worth around £8 million a year - more than any previous sponsorship deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Ill believe everywhere else and be in the comfort that if you don't agree then I'm on the right track. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19926172 It's thought the contract is worth around £8 million a year - more than any previous sponsorship deal. Still lower though, innit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Ill believe everywhere else and be in the comfort that if you don't agree then I'm on the right track. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19926172 It's thought the contract is worth around £8 million a year - more than any previous sponsorship deal. Still lower though, innit. You miss the part where it said more than any previous deal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Ill believe everywhere else and be in the comfort that if you don't agree then I'm on the right track. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19926172 It's thought the contract is worth around £8 million a year - more than any previous sponsorship deal. Still lower though, innit. You miss the part where it said more than any previous deal? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 You heard of something called a law binding agreement? That's what happens on multi million deals. Have you heard yourself man? All of you. Mike Ashley the man obsessed with money goes out of his way to accept a lower offer to what, p*ss off the fans and drag the name of the club through the mud because its good advertising Any more conspiracies you got while we are at it? Mike Ashley behind 9/11 so he could sell more secure luggage? He invented Bird Flu so he could sell trainers to run away from swans? Calling Womblemaster! Womblesignal lit!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Also to point out northern rock deal was £10m over 4 years, so why virgin would start paying us 4 times that amount while still in the deal I don't know. From 2010 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/7018012/Newcastle-United-sponsors-Northern-Rock-defend-signing-new-deal.html So basically both figures are wrong. Wonga isn't 6 it's 8 and virgin didnt pay us 10 a year either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Am enjoying this TT, please continue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Also to point out northern rock deal was £10m over 4 years, so why virgin would start paying us 4 times that amount while still in the deal I don't know. From 2010 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/7018012/Newcastle-United-sponsors-Northern-Rock-defend-signing-new-deal.html So basically both figures are wrong. Wonga isn't 6 it's 8 and virgin didnt pay us 10 a year either. That deal was only 2 years, NR activated an early termination clause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Also to point out northern rock deal was £10m over 4 years, so why virgin would start paying us 4 times that amount while still in the deal I don't know. From 2010 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/7018012/Newcastle-United-sponsors-Northern-Rock-defend-signing-new-deal.html So basically both figures are wrong. Wonga isn't 6 it's 8 and virgin didnt pay us 10 a year either. That deal was only 2 years, NR activated an early termination clause. Virgin bought NR that's why the changeover happened. Read the article, 4 years at £2.5m a year. Virgin wouldn't jump from 2.5 to 10. No actual figures on the virgin deal came out. Llambias said at the time (wonga deal) he went for the most money possible in terms of sponsor adding its one more player on the pitch. Everything apart from Luke Edwards once saying the virgin deal could be worth up to (as vague as you are going to get) £20m, points to the wonga deal being our most lucrative in our history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Also to point out northern rock deal was £10m over 4 years, so why virgin would start paying us 4 times that amount while still in the deal I don't know. From 2010 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/7018012/Newcastle-United-sponsors-Northern-Rock-defend-signing-new-deal.html So basically both figures are wrong. Wonga isn't 6 it's 8 and virgin didnt pay us 10 a year either. That deal was only 2 years, NR activated an early termination clause. Virgin bought NR that's why the changeover happened. Read the article, 4 years at £2.5m a year. Virgin wouldn't jump from 2.5 to 10. No actual figures on the virgin deal came out. Llambias said at the time (wonga deal) he went for the most money possible in terms of sponsor adding its one more player on the pitch. Everything apart from Luke Edwards once saying the virgin deal could be worth up to (as vague as you are going to get) £20m, points to the wonga deal being our most lucrative in our history. One more player on the pitch. Sorry, not discrediting your argument but yer kna. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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