Wallace Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/columnists/scottwilson/scottwilson/13781521.Scott_Wilson_Column__Charnley_and_Carr_head_list_of_culprits_for_Newcastle_United_s_troubles/?ref=mac Scott Wilson Column: Charnley and Carr head list of culprits for Newcastle United's troubles AS he trudged off the field at the end of Wednesday’s calamitous Capital One Cup defeat to Wolves, Steve McClaren looked up into the Milburn Stand to see a group of furious supporters hurling abuse in his direction. Such is the way of things at Newcastle United, where the head coach is the only public face of a compromised and rotten regime. McClaren should not be spared criticism. His team selection on Wednesday night was flawed from the outset, and more than three months into his role, he does not appear to have any idea about his preferred formation or best players. Perhaps he has simply concluded that he doesn’t have any. Yet to portray McClaren as the cause of the current crisis is to completely ignore the deep-rooted systemic failures that have turned Newcastle into the Premier League’s laughing stock. This isn’t a malaise that started when McClaren was appointed. Newcastle won three games in the whole of the second half of last season, and were similarly dreadful in the second half of the previous campaign under Alan Pardew. Their problems go back years, so while McClaren, Pardew and John Carver all merit a mention when blame is being apportioned, along with the players who are currently picking up their astronomical pay packets under false pretences, the real villains of the piece are the boardroom triumvirate of Mike Ashley, Lee Charnley and Graham Carr. They dreamed up the flawed transfer policy that is crippling Newcastle, and it is they who continue to cling to it despite all available evidence highlighting that it does not work. Of all the comments made last week, the most alarming was McClaren’s admission that the board are already targeting the January transfer window in order to put things right. Like an alcoholic eyeing their next drink while the dregs from their current pint are still swilling around the bottom of the glass, Newcastle’s boardroom leaders are convinced everything will be okay if they plough headlong into January and throw more money at their beloved continental markets. Never mind that they spent more than £50m this summer and somehow managed to make one of the poorest teams in the Premier League even worse. Newcastle’s dreadful transfer business is the single biggest cause of the current crisis. Ever since Carr recruited Yohan Cabaye and Mathieu Debuchy, and in the eyes of his employer, turned water into wine, the club have adopted an inflexible and myopic approach to signing players. They have to fit into a certain age bracket. They have to come from a specific market and fall within a pre-defined price range. And above all else, they have to have a “sell-on value” once their contract expires. It doesn’t matter if they fit into the squad or not, just as it is inconsequential whether there are gaping holes they do not fill. Newcastle desperately needed experienced defenders and strikers this summer, yet they ended up with a 21-year-old centre-half who cannot speak a word of English (Chancel Mbemba), a 21-year-old striker whose character flaws were well known before he arrived (Aleksandar Mitrovic), a ‘number ten’ who doesn’t have a role in the team because the squad was already well stocked in that position (Georginio Wijnaldum) and yet another over-hyped French winger who clearly sees Newcastle as nothing more than a stepping stone to bigger and better things (Florian Thauvin). No matter that McClaren wanted Charlie Austin, a player with proven Premier League pedigree. His injury record meant he didn’t guarantee “added value”. Hence, he remained at QPR and McClaren felt compelled to play Siem de Jong as a lone striker on Wednesday night. Newcastle is a club without an identity because Carr and Charnley sign players who see it as little more than a transit zone. Nobody makes an emotional investment into the team, nobody is prepared to go the extra yard when things become difficult. And even when their commitment appears to have expired, as in the case of Fabricio Coloccini, Cheick Tiote and Papiss Cisse, they remain because they are assets that cannot be knowingly undersold. Charnley must see that, yet his failure to stand up to Ashley and challenge the failing methodology is preventing any opportunity of change. Only answerable to the person who parachuted him into his lofty position, perhaps the managing director feels he would be demoted if he was to confront his boss? If that is the case, you would imagine he will be going anyway if Newcastle are relegated. Unwilling to listen to the concerns of his head coach, but unwavering in his loyalty to Ashley, Charnley appears to be blinkered to what is going on around him. And the same is clearly true of Carr, a figure whose reputation far exceeds what he has actually achieved during his time on Tyneside. If Carr really is the scouting guru he is purported to be, he must surely watch the current Newcastle team in action and see the folly of his ways. Is he really so blinded by his perceived ability to unearth continental gems that he is unable to see that he has assembled a team of footballing mercenaries who do not knit together in anything even approximating a functioning whole? Admittedly, even as a de facto director of football, you can only work within the parameters that are available, and there is plenty of anecdotal evidence to suggest Carr has on occasion delivered a list of targets that have not arrived. Yet by making the same mistakes time after time, Carr is making an already perilous situation worse. Having been left red-faced by the antics of Hatem Ben Arfa and Remy Cabella, did he really think a £12m investment in Thauvin was wise? And having watched Mitrovic in action repeatedly, could he not foresee the character flaws that have made the striker such a liability so far? McClaren will sit down with both Carr and Charnley to discuss this summer’s transfer window in the next couple of weeks, and for once, the pair would be advised to listen to the view from inside the dressing room. Newcastle’s current modus operandi might make money, but it is incompatible with the task of moulding a successful team. 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sempuki Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 On 24/09/2015 at 16:41, Wallace said: http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/columnists/scottwilson/scottwilson/13781521.Scott_Wilson_Column__Charnley_and_Carr_head_list_of_culprits_for_Newcastle_United_s_troubles/?ref=mac Scott Wilson Column: Charnley and Carr head list of culprits for Newcastle United's troubles AS he trudged off the field at the end of Wednesday’s calamitous Capital One Cup defeat to Wolves, Steve McClaren looked up into the Milburn Stand to see a group of furious supporters hurling abuse in his direction. Such is the way of things at Newcastle United, where the head coach is the only public face of a compromised and rotten regime. McClaren should not be spared criticism. His team selection on Wednesday night was flawed from the outset, and more than three months into his role, he does not appear to have any idea about his preferred formation or best players. Perhaps he has simply concluded that he doesn’t have any. Yet to portray McClaren as the cause of the current crisis is to completely ignore the deep-rooted systemic failures that have turned Newcastle into the Premier League’s laughing stock. This isn’t a malaise that started when McClaren was appointed. Newcastle won three games in the whole of the second half of last season, and were similarly dreadful in the second half of the previous campaign under Alan Pardew. Their problems go back years, so while McClaren, Pardew and John Carver all merit a mention when blame is being apportioned, along with the players who are currently picking up their astronomical pay packets under false pretences, the real villains of the piece are the boardroom triumvirate of Mike Ashley, Lee Charnley and Graham Carr. They dreamed up the flawed transfer policy that is crippling Newcastle, and it is they who continue to cling to it despite all available evidence highlighting that it does not work. Of all the comments made last week, the most alarming was McClaren’s admission that the board are already targeting the January transfer window in order to put things right. Like an alcoholic eyeing their next drink while the dregs from their current pint are still swilling around the bottom of the glass, Newcastle’s boardroom leaders are convinced everything will be okay if they plough headlong into January and throw more money at their beloved continental markets. Never mind that they spent more than £50m this summer and somehow managed to make one of the poorest teams in the Premier League even worse. Newcastle’s dreadful transfer business is the single biggest cause of the current crisis. Ever since Carr recruited Yohan Cabaye and Mathieu Debuchy, and in the eyes of his employer, turned water into wine, the club have adopted an inflexible and myopic approach to signing players. They have to fit into a certain age bracket. They have to come from a specific market and fall within a pre-defined price range. And above all else, they have to have a “sell-on value” once their contract expires. It doesn’t matter if they fit into the squad or not, just as it is inconsequential whether there are gaping holes they do not fill. Newcastle desperately needed experienced defenders and strikers this summer, yet they ended up with a 21-year-old centre-half who cannot speak a word of English (Chancel Mbemba), a 21-year-old striker whose character flaws were well known before he arrived (Aleksandar Mitrovic), a ‘number ten’ who doesn’t have a role in the team because the squad was already well stocked in that position (Georginio Wijnaldum) and yet another over-hyped French winger who clearly sees Newcastle as nothing more than a stepping stone to bigger and better things (Florian Thauvin). No matter that McClaren wanted Charlie Austin, a player with proven Premier League pedigree. His injury record meant he didn’t guarantee “added value”. Hence, he remained at QPR and McClaren felt compelled to play Siem de Jong as a lone striker on Wednesday night. Newcastle is a club without an identity because Carr and Charnley sign players who see it as little more than a transit zone. Nobody makes an emotional investment into the team, nobody is prepared to go the extra yard when things become difficult. And even when their commitment appears to have expired, as in the case of Fabricio Coloccini, Cheick Tiote and Papiss Cisse, they remain because they are assets that cannot be knowingly undersold. Charnley must see that, yet his failure to stand up to Ashley and challenge the failing methodology is preventing any opportunity of change. Only answerable to the person who parachuted him into his lofty position, perhaps the managing director feels he would be demoted if he was to confront his boss? If that is the case, you would imagine he will be going anyway if Newcastle are relegated. Unwilling to listen to the concerns of his head coach, but unwavering in his loyalty to Ashley, Charnley appears to be blinkered to what is going on around him. And the same is clearly true of Carr, a figure whose reputation far exceeds what he has actually achieved during his time on Tyneside. If Carr really is the scouting guru he is purported to be, he must surely watch the current Newcastle team in action and see the folly of his ways. Is he really so blinded by his perceived ability to unearth continental gems that he is unable to see that he has assembled a team of footballing mercenaries who do not knit together in anything even approximating a functioning whole? Admittedly, even as a de facto director of football, you can only work within the parameters that are available, and there is plenty of anecdotal evidence to suggest Carr has on occasion delivered a list of targets that have not arrived. Yet by making the same mistakes time after time, Carr is making an already perilous situation worse. Having been left red-faced by the antics of Hatem Ben Arfa and Remy Cabella, did he really think a £12m investment in Thauvin was wise? And having watched Mitrovic in action repeatedly, could he not foresee the character flaws that have made the striker such a liability so far? McClaren will sit down with both Carr and Charnley to discuss this summer’s transfer window in the next couple of weeks, and for once, the pair would be advised to listen to the view from inside the dressing room. Newcastle’s current modus operandi might make money, but it is incompatible with the task of moulding a successful team. Good article. 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Heron Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 ...apart from it wasn't Wolves...aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 On 24/09/2015 at 16:08, Big Geordie said: Got my call booked in for Total Sport, tonight - should be sometime after 615pm. Gonna go in all guns blazing on the owner and the players. Will also be mentioning Ashleyout.com Can't wait BG! You're always a good'un Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 On 24/09/2015 at 17:05, ExiledGeordie said: Quote Got my call booked in for Total Sport, tonight - should be sometime after 615pm. Gonna go in all guns blazing on the owner and the players. Will also be mentioning Ashleyout.com Can't wait BG! You're always a good'un They didn't ring. Won't be able to get on tomorrow night, as am at work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 On 24/09/2015 at 18:43, Big Geordie said: Quote Quote Got my call booked in for Total Sport, tonight - should be sometime after 615pm. Gonna go in all guns blazing on the owner and the players. Will also be mentioning Ashleyout.com Can't wait BG! You're always a good'un They didn't ring. Won't be able to get on tomorrow night, as am at work. shaun from Sunderland was a canny call Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Aye - think he always has an arguement with Marco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Good job we didn't listen to the Ashley out lads.......oh wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Fucker's just sitting there content in his massive estate "Montebello" there at 19 Totteridge Common, not giving a shit that his comfort is paid for in part by raping the club and its supporters blind. Dick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 On 24/09/2015 at 21:24, B-more Mag said: Fucker's just sitting there content in his massive estate "Montebello" there at 19 Totteridge Common, not giving a shit that his comfort is paid for in part by raping the club and its supporters blind. Dick. Is that his actual address? Up there in Barnet, N20? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 On 24/09/2015 at 21:31, GeordieMessiah said: Quote Fucker's just sitting there content in his massive estate "Montebello" there at 19 Totteridge Common, not giving a shit that his comfort is paid for in part by raping the club and its supporters blind. Dick. Is that his actual address? Up there in Barnet, N20? Yeah, ginormous place that I would not encourage anyone to actually vandalize in any meaningful way under most circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 On 24/09/2015 at 21:41, B-more Mag said: Quote Quote Fucker's just sitting there content in his massive estate "Montebello" there at 19 Totteridge Common, not giving a shit that his comfort is paid for in part by raping the club and its supporters blind. Dick. Is that his actual address? Up there in Barnet, N20? Yeah, ginormous place that I would not encourage anyone to actually vandalize in any meaningful way under most circumstances. Yes, it is rather large. https://goo.gl/maps/mfZDjFo5HBq Wonder who gets to live in the Gate Lodge? Llambias or Charnley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 On 24/09/2015 at 21:45, GeordieMessiah said: Quote Quote Quote Fucker's just sitting there content in his massive estate "Montebello" there at 19 Totteridge Common, not giving a shit that his comfort is paid for in part by raping the club and its supporters blind. Dick. Is that his actual address? Up there in Barnet, N20? Yeah, ginormous place that I would not encourage anyone to actually vandalize in any meaningful way under most circumstances. Yes, it is rather large. https://goo.gl/maps/mfZDjFo5HBq Wonder who gets to live in the Gate Lodge? Llambias or Charnley? probably a dog basket at the end of his four poster for those two cunts to share Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 After a lot of soul searching and thinking about the future i have came to the conclusion relegation is our only way to get rid of the cunt ,hit him where it hurts in the pocket and the tv money not coming in will hopefully decide fuck it nowt in it for him now,this empty shell of soulless despair is still our club but we will never be proud fans under this regime as nobody cares about us from the tea lady to the top .The players and i would say 95 % of them could not give a flying fuck who they play for and the badge and history mean nothing to them ,the summer just gone saw us spend a few million and it was a shock but it is what normal clubs do and we are forever playing catch up and with such a small unbalanced squad i knew this would change nothing this season so same old cycle different coach and training but cannot change the wankers on the pitch mentality sadly . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Typical. The horse he was on about bolting to the cart turned out to be nothing more than an asthmatic pit pony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I generally don't wish any particular ill will to any specific person, but I totally wish testicular torsion to Mike Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 When will he keel over? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Mike Ashley, May 2015, before the West Ham game: 'Today we don't need to be unlucky. From this day forward though, we'll definitely be making our own luck'. Yeah, how's that working out for you Mike? We're already looking at shite teams in the league hoping they don't pick up points. We're 8 fucking games in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 That fucking interview. To think it actually succeeded in what he was setting out to achieve, as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 He doesn't care man, just doesn't give a single solitary fuck. If we get relegated it might irritate him slightly for a short while, a bit like one of us might feel if our pizza delivery is late, but then he'll just shell out for some more coke and blowjobs and forget about us again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 There's nee chance he'll be able to neck the pizza when it finally arrives if he boshes loads of gear in the meantime like, nee chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Pack of saps who believed his shit shouldn't be surprised like. Idiotic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 http://www.golfpunkhq.com/news/article/if-ashley-gets-his-way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 On 04/10/2015 at 12:53, neesy111 said: http://www.golfpunkhq.com/news/article/if-ashley-gets-his-way Is that golf shop in downtown Mogadishu or something? http://www.golfpunkhq.com/mediaLibrary/images/english/8355.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 6 security cameras and razor wire, must have some good stuff in there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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