AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I don't get Ashley sometimes, how did he become successful by giving jobs to people with absolutely no experience or qualifications for them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I don't get Ashley sometimes, how did he become successful by giving jobs to people with absolutely no experience or qualifications for them? Must have forgotten that hiring the right people = more success = more money. But the business he made his bread from seems to be idiot proof cheap shit that people gobble up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Loves employing people who'll tell him he's kind, witty and has the looks of a young Leonardo DiCaprio does Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Surely this means the AshleyOut campaign need to focus on getting with his daughter? Who's the best looking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Married I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I'm out. Doesn't matter if she's a looker, it would be like Foley's daughter. You'd just never stop thinking who her dad is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I don't get Ashley sometimes, how did he become successful by giving jobs to people with absolutely no experience or qualifications for them? Because those people don't make decisions, they just report back to Mike who makes all the calls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I don't get Ashley sometimes, how did he become successful by giving jobs to people with absolutely no experience or qualifications for them? Because those people don't make decisions, they just report back to Mike who makes all the calls. Yep, seems the only possible answer. Problem is that in the football business, he doesn't know what he's doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 TBf if it was me I would want to make all the calls as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 TBf if it was me I would want to make all the calls as well Aye, in businesses I knew about. In football I would go after someone with expertise and a track record. If I had infinite money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I don't really understand Ashley's philoshophy on football at all, he owns a huge club that has virtually no expectations other than to play good football and stay in the league, and he still buy's cheap foreign imports to play for a while and then sell at a "modest" profit. Surely he should be investing in the youth like Everton and selling the youngins he's not paid a penny for, just like Newcastle has done for generations. If he's football to make money he could be a lot more savey and make a lot more, if he's in it for enjoyment and the kicks, that went tits up 6 years ago. I still think if he wasn't so vindictive he could have the best of both worlds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 He's stubborn enough and not knowledegable enough to just keep on doing what he always has in his businesses and has a less than high regard for a fan base who call him a fat cunt etc. These gambles are going to bite hard at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I think he is lost. To be fair I genuinely believe he changed his approach a bit last summer because he sanctioned those expensive deals. Mitrovic Wijnaldum Mbemba are in fact good signings. However the fact is we are having worse results comparing with last season, despite money spent. Of course we are able to explain why e.g. shit managers and shit defenders midfielders etc but he may not realize this as he is too “highlevel” and those who directly report to him are morons without any football knowledge. It is Mcclarens responsibility to voice this out but obviously he failed, partly due to extremely poor results which damage his credibility, if any. In short, he cant understand why the result is worse when more money is spent and a manager with proven quality was brought in. It is logical, in his perspective, to think that the problem lies somewhere else rather than not enough money invested, which in reality its both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I think he is lost. To be fair I genuinely believe he changed his approach a bit last summer because he sanctioned those expensive deals. Mitrovic Wijnaldum Mbemba are in fact good signings. However the fact is we are having worse results comparing with last season, despite money spent. Of course we are able to explain why e.g. s*** managers and s*** defenders midfielders etc but he may not realize this as he is too “highlevel” and those who directly report to him are morons without any football knowledge. It is Mcclarens responsibility to voice this out but obviously he failed, partly due to extremely poor results which damage his credibility, if any. In short, he cant understand why the result is worse when more money is spent and a manager with proven quality was brought in. It is logical, in his perspective, to think that the problem lies somewhere else rather than not enough money invested, which in reality its both. A slightly better record than Pardew. But I wouldn't really say McClaren is 'proven quality'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I think he is lost. To be fair I genuinely believe he changed his approach a bit last summer because he sanctioned those expensive deals. Mitrovic Wijnaldum Mbemba are in fact good signings. However the fact is we are having worse results comparing with last season, despite money spent. Of course we are able to explain why e.g. s*** managers and s*** defenders midfielders etc but he may not realize this as he is too “highlevel” and those who directly report to him are morons without any football knowledge. It is Mcclarens responsibility to voice this out but obviously he failed, partly due to extremely poor results which damage his credibility, if any. In short, he cant understand why the result is worse when more money is spent and a manager with proven quality was brought in. It is logical, in his perspective, to think that the problem lies somewhere else rather than not enough money invested, which in reality its both. A slightly better record than Pardew. But I wouldn't really say McClaren is 'proven quality'. You have to think in his perspective that Mcclaren is a former national team manager which sounds more “classy”. It is fucking stupid i know but that's true, just like some would prefer hire a former Oxford graduates than an ordinary secondary school grad, without paying much attention to their most recent job details and performance. And to make situation worse, there is an idiot who recommend this manager because he is too incompetent to find someone else despite publicly claimed that more than 100 managers are interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I think he knows more than is let on to be honest. It's just he is happy to cut cost as much as possible to survive. That's how he does business, always has, always will. How many luxury products does Ashley produce? He's abit of a gambler but to get to where he is you need mostly luck more than anything else. Wouldn't surprise if most the logic behind his decisions is that he is a genius business man compared to not knowing much about football. He will run a club cheaply and succeed as he is a genius, is probably what's in his head. How dare the fans question him. You only need to see his interaction with Rangers board members or any media articles that challenge him to see his train of thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I think he is lost. To be fair I genuinely believe he changed his approach a bit last summer because he sanctioned those expensive deals. Mitrovic Wijnaldum Mbemba are in fact good signings. However the fact is we are having worse results comparing with last season, despite money spent. Of course we are able to explain why e.g. s*** managers and s*** defenders midfielders etc but he may not realize this as he is too “highlevel” and those who directly report to him are morons without any football knowledge. It is Mcclarens responsibility to voice this out but obviously he failed, partly due to extremely poor results which damage his credibility, if any. In short, he cant understand why the result is worse when more money is spent and a manager with proven quality was brought in. It is logical, in his perspective, to think that the problem lies somewhere else rather than not enough money invested, which in reality its both. A slightly better record than Pardew. But I wouldn't really say McClaren is 'proven quality'. You have to think in his perspective that Mcclaren is a former national team manager which sounds more “classy”. It is f***ing stupid i know but that's true, just like some would prefer hire a former Oxford graduates than an ordinary secondary school grad, without paying much attention to their most recent job details and performance. And to make situation worse, there is an idiot who recommend this manager because he is too incompetent to find someone else despite publicly claimed that more than 100 managers are interested. Fair enough mate. I thought you were personally suggesting that McClaren was a decent enough manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I don't know if Ashey coasts in business. Yes, he provides shite products at rock-bottom prices, but there's a massive market for that. In his dealings with competitors, suppliers and staff he seems to demand a lot and be quite ruthless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The only true thing Pardew ever said was Mike Ashley doesn't understand football, and the cunt fined him wages for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie1892 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I think there's far too much analysis going on directly above. Ashley knows what he is doing: the absolute bare minimum spend to finish 17th or above and, as a consequence, the amount of money he can misappropriate from the club. That's the beginning and end of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The only true thing Pardew ever said was Mike Ashley doesn't understand football, and the c*** fined him wages for it Don't remember this? Was it after the headbutt. As he got fined for that as well, if memory serves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/may/15/sports-direct-sorry-newcastle-wayne-rooney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I think there's far too much analysis going on directly above. Ashley knows what he is doing: the absolute bare minimum spend to finish 17th or above and, as a consequence, the amount of money he can misappropriate from the club. That's the beginning and end of it. Except he doesn't know what to do with the minimum spend so we don't go down. And aiming for 17th means you'll finish even lower. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I don't know if Ashey coasts in business. Yes, he provides shite products at rock-bottom prices, but there's a massive market for that. In his dealings with competitors, suppliers and staff he seems to demand a lot and be quite ruthless. He's an absolute control freak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I think there's far too much analysis going on directly above. Ashley knows what he is doing: the absolute bare minimum spend to finish 17th or above and, as a consequence, the amount of money he can misappropriate from the club. That's the beginning and end of it. Not really true because if he did know anything he'd know that appointing a top quality manager would remove the unnecessary risk of relegation we've been skirting for the last few years. Good manager would cost a couple of million a season, you could leave Carr in charge of players but just ensure if the manager says he needs a dominant CB he gets one within the given budget. If he understood this he, and we probably, would be laughing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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