Wullie Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 It's whether or not the handball is by the player who scores I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Ah right, sure that's the reason they said on comms but wouldn't know either way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) Havn't seen Bale's disallowed goal today but i presume its for the bit in bold. Handling the ball For the purposes of determining handball offences, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit. It is an offence if a player: • deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/arm towards the ball • scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper • after the ball has touched their or a team-mate’s hand/arm, even if accidental, immediately: • scores in the opponents’ goal • creates a goal-scoring opportunity • touches the ball with their hand/arm when: • the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger • the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm Edited May 23, 2021 by NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Watching the Leicester highlights. I know it's been done to death but Christ, what use is VAR? If it can't be used to determine that Vardy's cheated a pen (the second one), what the hell use is it? Most obvious simulation i've seen in ages, literally and deliberately locks his arm around the defenders arm and then propels himself into the air like he stood on a land mine and VAR couldn't overrule the award? Fucking useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky Jim Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, midds said: Ah right, sure that's the reason they said on comms but wouldn't know either way The exact ruling is:- Immediately after touching the ball with the arm, even accidentally, the player scores a goal or creates a goal-scoring opportunity. In Bale’s case,apparently enough time lapsed before goal was scored. Strange as I’ve seen goals disallowed by handball in a build up well before the goal….suppose VAR decides what length of time this should be…..AGAIN in Bale’s case i would have thought that was a short enough time to disallow the goal…but hell what do i know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 37 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said: Watching the Leicester highlights. I know it's been done to death but Christ, what use is VAR? If it can't be used to determine that Vardy's cheated a pen (the second one), what the hell use is it? Most obvious simulation i've seen in ages, literally and deliberately locks his arm around the defenders arm and then propels himself into the air like he stood on a land mine and VAR couldn't overrule the award? Fucking useless. Yup. A clear dive and they do fuck all about it. He won’t be retrospectively banned either, like he should be. Quite pleased Bale’s goal stood in the end as a bit of karma, even though I have no idea how that wasn’t disallowed either. VAR has ruined my enjoyment of football. I’ve not celebrated/enjoyed a goal properly in ages, always sat waiting for the game to kick off expecting it to be ruled out for something pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Jinky Jim said: The exact ruling is:- Immediately after touching the ball with the arm, even accidentally, the player scores a goal or creates a goal-scoring opportunity. In Bale’s case,apparently enough time lapsed before goal was scored. Strange as I’ve seen goals disallowed by handball in a build up well before the goal….suppose VAR decides what length of time this should be…..AGAIN in Bale’s case i would have thought that was a short enough time to disallow the goal…but hell what do i know Not sure if the rule has changed since but Mahrez had one disallowed against Liverpool after it hit Foden when he was on the floor at the end of last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Not sure if the rule has changed since but Mahrez had one disallowed against Liverpool after it hit Foden when he was on the floor at the end of last season It was changed between last season and this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I don't understand why that Spurs goal was allowed, it clearly touched Kane's hand which (I thought) should rule it out under the current rule. I know they're adjusting it for next season, but I thought any hand touch in the build up was currently a handball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, neesy111 said: It was changed between last season and this season. Ah okay And they are then changing it again for next season? As that is what was said during the Wilson disallowed goal. According to Peter Walton next season it will still be disallowed but if a team mate scored it then it would have stood It's just ridiculous really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Keith Stroud in the Prem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Bobby Madley with another shitshow again today. He’s diabolical ever single time I watch a game that features him. Not just a terrible referee but also a terrible person after that video got out. Mad he’s wormed his way back in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 We have been poor but my word, the officiating today has been shocking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 No accountability for some of this lot. It's fucking ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 The ammount of times he waved away our players being pushed off the ball moments before or after giving Arsenal a freekick for the same thing was borderline conspiratorial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 This is one of the worst refereeing oerformances i’ve seen in a long time. May as well have had an Arsenal shirt on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Arsenal deserved winners, comfortably better all over the pitch but that refereeing performance was a disgrace. He didn't cost us the game but was ridiculously biased. A proper throwback to the 'homer' days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Utter shite today from Twatwell. Every single borderline decision to the home side, a proper prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 hours ago, midds said: Arsenal deserved winners, comfortably better all over the pitch but that refereeing performance was a disgrace. He didn't cost us the game but was ridiculously biased. A proper throwback to the 'homer' days These are the exact comments I made to an Arsenal friend of mine and he completely agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 We could have had 3 pens today if we were a Big 6 club. But we aren't and the FA appointed refs will make decisions according to their own interests which may or may not accord to their employers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Thought the refereeing was piss poor yesterday like. No consistency and borderline biased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I thought we were playing against 12 on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Whether it was home bias influenced by the crowd or not there was a definite stench of it - saying that var cannot be accused of that so how schar didn't get a pen for being rugby tackled on that corner is mystery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Being there live. It did seem like anything that was a bit niggly and looked like 6 and two 3's, went there way. Whereas we would have players getting barged over or pulled down and nothing was given. Not seen the Schar one back or the handball. The Wilson one would annoy me if it was given against us. But the more you look at it, the more it seems like a foul. Push in the back, when running full tilt and clearly no way he's going to be playing the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I don't think you could give the hand ball. The other two... Also felt like we never got the benefit of the doubt all game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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