mickthemagpie Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Thought it was a yellow only if it was a penalty? Otherwise its a red This is my understanding of it. Yes, this rule change was explained several times during Euro 2016. The ref must have been on his holidays and missed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 TBF, he had seen Perez' touch and knew he would of hoofed it out for a goal kick. Not sure that could be deemed a goal scoring opportunity I've seen red cards given for less. Thought it was 50/50. What was worse, was how Odoi didn't get a second yellow, after that early foul. He actually played really well after a shaky start. which makes it even worse. I'm sure he gave away 2-3 more fouls after they yellow. One was a really heavy tackle up our end of the pitch and another was when he'd been beaten and he grabbed/tripped our player, when trying to get back. Both could easily been yellow cards and I think in the prem, they would have been. Kalas not getting booked when Perez' had rolled him, was another awful decision. I think the first hand ball was 100% a penalty and he should have given it. Not sure he could have seen the second one, though. Not using the ref's shitness as an excuse, mind. We were awful and barely created anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 For the first pen, what part of the body did the ref think it had hit given he gave a corner ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 His head Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 His head Just rewatched it and took particular notice of the refs position. No way could he have thought it hit his head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I thought it was a blatant red, I was baffled Sky just ignored it. He probably wouldn't have scored, but then that's Odoi's problem for pulling him down. Perez had a good half yard on their entire defence with the ball under decent control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I must have remembered it wrong. I didn't think the ball had even reached him when he was brought down? If he already had it under control, then yeah, blatant red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 His head Just rewatched it and took particular notice of the refs position. No way could he have thought it hit his head. The ball flew past the players head, higher than his head, hit his hand, which then whiplashed around his body like a rubber band, ridiculous stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I must have remembered it wrong. I didn't think the ball had even reached him when he was brought down? If he already had it under control, then yeah, blatant red. Nah you're probably right, I watched it on a horrid blotchy stream and missed the replays as I was foamin'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Thought it was a yellow only if it was a penalty? Otherwise its a red Kid at the Rotherham game got a red card for very little whereas Ayoze was blatantly pushed down when through on goal. Should have been a red imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 IIRC he didn't really have the ball under full control so I think a yellow was adequate tbh. Denial of an Obvious Goal-Scoring Opportunity is the law and I'd say it wasn't obvious given he had to bring an awkward ball down and get his shot away. What was more annoying that he was allowed 2 more fairly poor fouls after that without further punishment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 IIRC he didn't really have the ball under full control so I think a yellow was adequate tbh. Denial of an Obvious Goal-Scoring Opportunity is the law and I'd say it wasn't obvious given he had to bring an awkward ball down and get his shot away. What was more annoying that he was allowed 2 more fairly poor fouls after that without further punishment. Aye, there were several 2nd or 3rd fouls by a few of their players that should have seen 2nd yellows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 That first handball and refusal to award a penalty gets funnier every time I watch it. Blatant corruption by the refereeing team. There is literally no other explanation for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Find nothing more annoying than the argument that you shouldn't need to rely on certain decisions of the referee going in your favour. Get the penalty we deserved against Fulham and it's a completely different game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 No pen decisions at 0-0 are game impacting decisions, it changes the swing of things. It has to be in the conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Mcmanaman? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 This could get interesting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 People keep relating this to the McManaman incident on Twitter. But it's the total opposite isn't it? An official claimed he did see it (FA never said which one) and so the FA couldn't retrospectively punish them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Halsey said he didn't see it, linesman said he did but was too far away to judge what happened Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Halsey said he didn't see it, linesman said he did but was too far away to judge what happened They never actually confirmed who saw it, just that they didn't see "the full extent". Pardew claimed the ref told him at half time he didn't see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 The FA announced on Friday that from this season it will be able to take retrospective action "when match officials are not in a position to fully assess a 'coming together' of players." A statement on the governing body's website read: "The amendment follows a tackle last season involving Wigan's Callum McManaman and Newcastle United's Massadio Haidara in which the match referee's view of the incident was blocked whilst the other match officials were not in a position to judge exactly what had occurred. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 This is why retrospective action against clubs and players needs to be minimised because it adds a layer of weakness for corruption or plain and simple bias. Obviously assaults etc should be punished retrospectively but for everything else I'd rather just accept that officials seeing incidents once in real time and not always at the best angle are going to miss stuff from time to time. You can still have goal line technology with sensors though as that would be more difficult to manipulate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 It's to do with an elbow by Nzonzi on Shawcross. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mark-halsey-claims-refereeing-bosses-8764725 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 When did encroaching during penalties stop being a reason to retake it? Really bugs me how refs never enforce this, this was Burton's penalty against Wolves at the weekend. The keeper saves the penalty and one of the players who has encroached then clears the ball. What is the ref looking at there? What is he doing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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