Pokerprince2004 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 I don't think Gallagher is too bad actually, seen him often go against the referee. Peter Walton on the otherhand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Mario Lemina's red yesterday was a dreadful decion too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Mason strikes me as someone who would need help rotating a PDF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Mason is bent, has to be. He should be investigated. Literally no excuse for how wrong some of his decisions have been. I wouldn't be surprised if he is involved in some sort of bet fixing. If it's incompetence he needs sacking, alternatively locking up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 I've only ever seen the name Jacque Talbot on here and its usually full of shite is he even a real journalist? Who does he write for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, Pokerprince2004 said: I've only ever seen the name Jacque Talbot on here and its usually full of shite is he even a real journalist? Who does he write for? Great thing about Twitter is if you click on the link you’ll find all that in their Bio 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 19 hours ago, joeyt said: Nah, I'm all for this if it stops people moaning at the ref. Same needs to be done for time wasting. Granted we're going to get a lot of yellow cards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Without knowing what was said, if anything, Lemina does seem a bit harshly done by but generally speaking England is way out of kilter compared to other European leagues when it comes to cards for dissent. You really don't have to do much complaining at all to get booked for it in Italy or Spain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Are the players briefed whenever these new on-the-fly rules are brought in? So I'm right in thinking that if you're the 3rd player to complain you get a yellow, but you're (theoretically) alright if you're the 1st or 2nd player to complain, possibly multiple times? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 There should be far more cards for dissent like. You basically shouldn't be able to talk to the referee at all. I guess some referees like to build relationships with players through talking to them but I would much prefer if they just applied the rules objectively and to the book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Are the players briefed whenever these new on-the-fly rules are brought in? So I'm right in thinking that if you're the 3rd player to complain you get a yellow, but you're (theoretically) alright if you're the 1st or 2nd player to complain, possibly multiple times? Has anyone said that's actually guidance issued to referees? Sounded like Gillet had just made it up to me. I think on SSN they'd said they were told that he ran aggressively at the ref, which is something that's very commonly booked for in Europe, but he clearly doesn't do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 The "third player over gets a yellow" thing seemed to happen to Ruben Dias yesterday in the Man City game too, that's why people are suddenly thinking it's a new rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Funny how there are calls to sack referees when it affects Arsenal, but we get shafted every game and not a peep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pilko said: The "third player over gets a yellow" thing seemed to happen to Ruben Dias yesterday in the Man City game too, that's why people are suddenly thinking it's a new rule. Missed that, interesting. Seems a bit silly and arbitrary. What if the third player is the captain, who is supposedly the player allowed to talk to the ref? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Reminds me of the Graham Poll "fast or slow" thing from that Arsenal free-kick way back when. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) Quote John Brooks has been replaced as the VAR operator for Liverpool's game against Everton on Monday and Arsenal's game with Manchester City on Wednesday. Brooks made a mistake when he was in charge of VAR for Brighton's 1-1 draw at Crystal Palace on Saturday. Brighton had a goal disallowed for offside after the VAR guidelines were wrongly drawn. Andre Marriner will replace Brooks on Monday, while David Coote will assume VAR duties on Wednesday. Howard Webb, chief of referees' body PGMOL, has called a meeting for Premier League referees to discuss mistakes in the use of VAR this weekend. Edited February 13, 2023 by 54 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Easy way to solve this is to mic up the refs. Two options: You can hear their conversations with players on TV or the crowd hears it like rugby. Accountability for everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 25 minutes ago, Wullie said: Has anyone said that's actually guidance issued to referees? Sounded like Gillet had just made it up to me. I think on SSN they'd said they were told that he ran aggressively at the ref, which is something that's very commonly booked for in Europe, but he clearly doesn't do that. I'm not convinced he even looked to see Lemina running towards him before brandishing the second yellow Something needs to be done about surrounding refs but to put a team down to 10 men for that seems really harsh. Especially if it's not consistently used by refs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, joeyt said: I'm not convinced he even looked to see Lemina running towards him before brandishing the second yellow Something needs to be done about surrounding refs but to put a team down to 10 men for that seems really harsh. Especially if it's not consistently used by refs Suspect you're right and that he wouldn't have given it if he'd realised it was a player already booked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 minute ago, joeyt said: I'm not convinced he even looked to see Lemina running towards him before brandishing the second yellow Something needs to be done about surrounding refs but to put a team down to 10 men for that seems really harsh. Especially if it's not consistently used by refs Need a sin bin so there is an intermediate penalty short of a sending off. Of course this means you need a play clock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Dermot Gallacher said there is no third player rule on Ref Watch, it's more if a player travels a distance to get into the refs face. Not sure if he's right, seems so with Lemina and Diaz, although Lemina's seemed awfully harsh. But if you know the new laws, don't run 20, 30 yards to get at the ref. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Mason's apparently been sacked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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