Kid Icarus Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 There's no law against doing faith healing on a pig. No way should Burn have been sent off, it doesn't even qualify as an elbow. Cunha's flailing arm on Trippier was more egregious (and also not deliberate or a foul) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Weird one. I feel conflicted. Felt the Ramsey second yellow/red was harsh but at the same time am fully on board with refs punishing what they see as simulation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, Cf said: Weird one. I feel conflicted. Felt the Ramsey second yellow/red was harsh but at the same time am fully on board with refs punishing what they see as simulation. he just dropped man - had sprinted to get the ball, couldnt reach it. dropped onto his back in frustration to get a breather. no claims for a pen in the slightest. that is not a dive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) You can dive and not appeal for a pen after you've realised what you've done. Edited March 5 by El Prontonise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 These cunts fucking do it - and have the bare-faced cheek to do so too. We should do the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 9 minutes ago, Cf said: Weird one. I feel conflicted. Felt the Ramsey second yellow/red was harsh but at the same time am fully on board with refs punishing what they see as simulation. It's consistency over the issue as usual is the biggest issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, toon25 said: These cunts fucking do it - and have the bare-faced cheek to do so too. We should do the same. The cheek of that midget cunt. Should've been off against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Ref didn't even think it was a dive he gave a goal kick initially Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 I think it's the linesman who's probably told him something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 39 minutes ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: Watched the game back this morning as was there last night and was wondering this myself 45 mins - 3 additional mins go up There was probably 1 minute for the Ramsey red card (Ramsey didnt go off straight away) There was probably 3 mins from giving the penalty, VAR double checking, Gordon scoring/celebrating to the game restarting So theres probably an extra 4 on top of the 3 Scoring and celebrating are not reasons for additional time. Excessive celebration yes, but not otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Peter Banks is a fucking disgrace. Fucked us over against Chelsea and tried to do the same last night. Only gave the red because Man U players surrounded him. Would love us to call it out. The amount of shit decisions, season defining that have gone against us this season is pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Haven't seen it back, but I was pretty convinced Maguire was all over Barnes pulling him when he had that attempted flick at goal in the first-half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 42 minutes ago, Cf said: Weird one. I feel conflicted. Felt the Ramsey second yellow/red was harsh but at the same time am fully on board with refs punishing what they see as simulation. They should be sure it's simulation if they are going to take that route. The ref didn't even go for the booking initially, he caved under pressure from Man U players which means he should get sacked in my book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, joeyt said: Ref didn't even think it was a dive he gave a goal kick initially Was just about to post this. It's not until three or four Man U players shout in his ugly face he gives the yellow card. Might be the assistant who tells him it's a dive, but the ref really should be stronger and tell him to fuck off then because he has as good a view as the assistant on the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 4 hours ago, Froggy said: Nah, Burns elbows were dirty. He's a lucky boy. "Luke Shaw is 5 foot 10 and that's why he took two elbows to the face" is one of the worst excuses I've ever heard as well. Shoe on the other foot you're screaming for reds for both of them and crying corruption when you don't get them. Just the nature of the game. Everyone thinks everyone is against them, but instead of corruption it's just incompetence. I think that if you mark someone so close by putting both arms around their torso you have to accept that contact is likely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 hours ago, Cf said: Weird one. I feel conflicted. Felt the Ramsey second yellow/red was harsh but at the same time am fully on board with refs punishing what they see as simulation. I said at the time in the pub. You see worse simulation all the time outside the box or in nothing areas and not near to goal. Refs just give them as fouls 9/10. Even if the contact is basically non-existent. I said you'll see worse theatrics (I don't even think this was) within the next few tackles. Gordon went down easy straight after. Then one of theirs, I think it might have even been for the free kick that led to the goal. Willock got a foul for falling over. To then decide this one is a dive and a second yellow. When Ramsey doesn't appeal, he doesn't go down in a theatrical way that suggests he is looking for it. He doesn't pretend he has been clipped where the point of contact would have been and goes down almost awkwardly afterwards. Oh and also after he's given a goal kick. Only to change his mind after he's been abused by 4-5 moaning Man U players. Shit, useless, weak refereeing of the highest order. Total guesswork and he's succumbed to pressure from ratcunt and his merry band of cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 5 hours ago, Cf said: Weird one. I feel conflicted. Felt the Ramsey second yellow/red was harsh but at the same time am fully on board with refs punishing what they see as simulation. Aye. Was and I'm still way more wound up about playing until they scored in the first half. The useless cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 6 hours ago, Froggy said: If you can show me examples I can analyse, but I'm not speaking with red tinted glasses here. You can't elbow someone in the head intentionally, whether it's Burn or Maguire. Did Maguire not forearm the back of Tony Gord's head whilst running and get a yellow for it in the second half? Was clearly intentional and was far more dangerous than what Burn did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1881 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 5 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: Haven't seen it back, but I was pretty convinced Maguire was all over Barnes pulling him when he had that attempted flick at goal in the first-half. He absolutely was - pulled him right back - absolutely clear penalty that VAR just ignored. Sometimes I think we don’t complain enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, Jimburst said: Did Maguire not forearm the back of Tony Gord's head whilst running and get a yellow for it in the second half? Was clearly intentional and was far more dangerous than what Burn did. Was basically an American football tackle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Imagine Fernandes being sent off for the same at Old Trafford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1881 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Ramsay did go down quite easily but no-more than many other incidents when a player goes down in the area and they are not booked, again it is all about consistency. Also Banks went through a short spell of booking players for the most innocuous fouls. Ramsay’s initial booking was for a slight tug on Casiemero who flounced down like a ballet dancer. It was his first foul and on the half-way line and absolutely did not warrant a booking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 17 minutes ago, 1881 said: He absolutely was - pulled him right back - absolutely clear penalty that VAR just ignored. Sometimes I think we don’t complain enough. Aye. Don't even think the commentators mentioned it but looked clear to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Already posted this in Ramsey thread, but he did get a little knock from the keeper on his right foot. I think he lands like an idiot as a result. Maybe trying to avoid rolling his ankle or maybe trying to win a pen, I dunno. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 13 minutes ago, 1881 said: Ramsay did go down quite easily but no-more than many other incidents when a player goes down in the area and they are not booked, again it is all about consistency. Also Banks went through a short spell of booking players for the most innocuous fouls. Ramsay’s initial booking was for a slight tug on Casiemero who flounced down like a ballet dancer. It was his first foul and on the half-way line and absolutely did not warrant a booking. I disagree. These little cynical fouls need to be eliminated from the game. Joelinton is the worst on our team but Citeh and others are the worst offenders at killing a break. I'd like sin bins or similar for any player making a deliberate foul and clubs docked points / fined if their team are consistent offenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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