Belfast Mags Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Genuinely gobsmacked if Ben Arfa becomes the scapegoat for playing ok in a hammering. Surely we wouldn't drop him. It just can't happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 It's fucking unbelievable that we had to endure shit performances week in week out from the likes of Jonas, Tiote, Cisse (this season) yet HBA has one terrible game and a quite half and there's talk of dropping him. Fuck me with a stick man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 It's f***ing unbelievable that we had to endure s*** performances week in week out from the likes of Jonas, Tiote, Cisse (this season) yet HBA has one terrible game and a quite half and there's talk of dropping him. f*** me with a stick man. If it happens, it will be sickening. I still can't believe he actually swapped the whole set up around because of one bad previous game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby_solano Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 take out the one player who actually makes watching matches the slightest bit entertaining? sounds about right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 It's fucking unbelievable that we had to endure shit performances week in week out from the likes of Jonas, Tiote, Cisse (this season) yet HBA has one terrible game and a quite half and there's talk of dropping him. Fuck me with a stick man. take out the one player who actually makes watching matches the slightest bit entertaining? sounds about right I think he'll definitely be dropped, and we will sneak past Cardiff (as they aren't very good) and Pards will be vindicated in his shit decision making. Its fucking grim that Pardew's even still here, let alone that he's risking alienated our best player. This is just us assuming the worst though right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Tbf there's a few about who believe our 2nd half performance was down to Pardew's half time team talk and outstanding tactical switches. And this included taking HBA off and nothing to do with Everton just massively switching off. If it was all about us and not about Everton then we were simply better with HBA off the pitch. Simples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Of course it is. Ignore all of the praise and hype he dishes out, on a regular basis. Speculation in a newspaper confirm that he wants to 'alienate' our best player, on the back of two sub-par performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Are people honestly believing Ben Arfa's going to be dropped? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I do wish he'd look for a pass more often rather than (seemingly) always trying to take a player(s) on. Would make him more difficult to crowd out of a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Are people honestly believing Ben Arfa's going to be dropped? was he not "hauled" off at half time? And? Pardew thought he was giving Coleman/Mirralas a free ride down the right so switched things around. Cardiff don't possess the same sort of ability that Everton do down the flanks, he’s not getting dropped, it was a tactical change at half time which worked but to suggest because he didn’t think Ben Arfa was right for that game means he won’t be right for Cardiff is just naïve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Are people honestly believing Ben Arfa's going to be dropped? was he not "hauled" off at half time? And? Pardew thought he was giving Coleman/Mirralas a free ride down the right so switched things around. Cardiff don't possess the same sort of ability that Everton do down the flanks, he’s not getting dropped, it was a tactical change at half time which worked but to suggest because he didn’t think Ben Arfa was right for that game means he won’t be right for Cardiff is just naïve. Was he right for Hull? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjraby Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Pardew dropping Ben Arfa would rival Gullit dropping Shearer in terms of idiocy; if it happens, with any luck, it'll end the same way it did for Gullit*! *as long as JFK doesn't take over! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Of course it is. Ignore all of the praise and hype he dishes out, on a regular basis. Speculation in a newspaper confirm that he wants to 'alienate' our best player, on the back of two sub-par performances. The praise that was mostly tempered with criticism? OKAY DEN Are you serious here, like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 HBA has been poor the last 2 games but he should still have more than enough credit in the bank to keep his place, hopefully the half time sub will have given him a bit of a kick up the arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Are people honestly believing Ben Arfa's going to be dropped? was he not "hauled" off at half time? And? Pardew thought he was giving Coleman/Mirralas a free ride down the right so switched things around. Cardiff don't possess the same sort of ability that Everton do down the flanks, he’s not getting dropped, it was a tactical change at half time which worked but to suggest because he didn’t think Ben Arfa was right for that game means he won’t be right for Cardiff is just naïve. Was he right for Hull? In my opinion he's right for any game. Hull he just had a bad day at the office all around, against Everton i didn't think he was as bad as people make out but obviously Pardew felt Cabaye would give us more control in the game and we would tighten up without ben arfa, it worked for that 45 minutes but that doesn't mean to say that's what we will do from now on away. Ben Arfa is still crucial to our side and Pardew knows it, he'll be starting on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Of course it is. Ignore all of the praise and hype he dishes out, on a regular basis. Speculation in a newspaper confirm that he wants to 'alienate' our best player, on the back of two sub-par performances. The praise that was mostly tempered with criticism? OKAY DEN Are you serious here, like? Yes You really think that he's attempting to use Hatem as a scapegoat for the recent poor performances, with the end goal of having him on the bench. Presumably, this will be to allow his favourite player in the world, Jonas, to play instead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 He makes one tactical change at half time resulting in Ben Arfa coming off and suddenly he's bench warming Saturday when he's been an integral part of the first team whenever fully fit. Don't understand where people draw their conclusions from. 'Hatem Ben Arfa not good enough to start away to Cardiff', just say that over and over in your head, you will almost start laughing to yourself after a couple of times because it's utter nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Beats absolute bollocks, like. But, that may be down to personal preference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Ohh dear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I'll still wait to see what we actually do. Can't deny I'm really scared that Pardew will throw the baby out with the bathwater. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Once again your just taking Lee Ryder's word as gospel, all of that is his opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I'll still wait to see what we actually do. Can't deny I'm really scared that Pardew will throw the baby out with the bathwater. It seems exactly what he going to do imo. Jonas FFS. Well I don't really know what that means. The press are definitely pushing the line that there'll be major changes. I'll wait and see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I'll wait and see what happens. If Jonas is in there it'll be a fucking vompocalypse though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Nothing new the press trying to put pressure on us and trying to create a bigger problem. Surprised they haven't ran a story about Ben Arfa on strike or summit or some huge bust up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Nothing new the press trying to put pressure on us and trying to create a bigger problem. Surprised they haven't ran a story about Ben Arfa on strike or summit or some huge bust up. The local press don't put pressure on the club, man. They're permanently kissing the club's arse for fear of being out in the cold again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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