Guest Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Did fuck all today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Did fuck all today. Not true. He allowed Swansea to score twice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Only person to blame for today. WHY WASNT YOU ON BENCH ATAM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walter Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 He flew out of Newcastle on Thursday, looking upset Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Wouldnt be surprised to see him start against Arsenal and Liverpool to be made scapegoat again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubblyDubblyDubbly Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Colo says he is the thickest player in the programme today. Poor bugger is getting it from all sides. It didn't do Gazza any harm being the thickest ever to take to the pitch, some stupid tackles aside. Destroyed him off it of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 and yet he's probably our cleverest player, in terms of vision on the football pitch, now that Cabaye has gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I think Marveaux is even better in that regard, but he's frozen out too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I think Marveaux is even better in that regard, but he's frozen out too. Seemed to have better decision making than HBA to me, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I really hope Pardew goes before he manages to force Ben Arfa out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chicken little Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 better fire up the old time machine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I really hope Pardew goes before he manages to force Ben Arfa out. HBA's away in the summer...only has 1 year left doesn't he? and he won't be signing a new contract. Even IF Pardle goes I doubt he'll stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 If Pardew stays I think Ben Arfa will go even if he wanted to stay because the fraud will not want the fans singing for him to come on and putting him under pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Unbelievable that Hatem's career here would be summarised in a little more than two threads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Unbelievable that Hatem's career here would be summarised in a little more than two threads. I can't see him ever fulfilling his real potential. That isn't taking away any blame from Pardew who royally fucked up but HBA seems to have been self destructive even from him youth days. Something not right in that otherwise brilliant head of his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Unbelievable that Hatem's career here would be summarised in a little more than two threads. 3 goals, that first vs Everton, the cup vs Blackburn, and the one was it against Bolton where he sprinted down the middle from half way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Most of his goals have been picturesque. My favourite is still the WBA away one. Just beautiful football and a deadly finish. He's class man, absolutely love him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Unbelievable that Hatem's career here would be summarised in a little more than two threads. I can't see him ever fulfilling his real potential. That isn't taking away any blame from Pardew who royally fucked up but HBA seems to have been self destructive even from him youth days. Something not right in that otherwise brilliant head of his. Ben Arfa is flawed, I don't think many would argue on that score. Forget tracking back, even going forward he has a tendency to hog the ball and that would see most top clubs steer clear. But we aren't a top club and some of the players starting ahead of him in a team which struggles to score goals aren't fit to be on the same pitch. That's the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Unbelievable that Hatem's career here would be summarised in a little more than two threads. I can't see him ever fulfilling his real potential. That isn't taking away any blame from Pardew who royally fucked up but HBA seems to have been self destructive even from him youth days. Something not right in that otherwise brilliant head of his. Ben Arfa is flawed, I don't think many would argue on that score. Forget tracking back, even going forward he has a tendency to hog the ball and that would see most top clubs steer clear. But we aren't a top club and some of the players starting ahead of him in a team which struggles to score goals aren't fit to be on the same pitch. That's the issue. I don't disagree with any of that, there is absolutely no reason why he shouldn't start games when he isn't injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Unbelievable that Hatem's career here would be summarised in a little more than two threads. I can't see him ever fulfilling his real potential. That isn't taking away any blame from Pardew who royally fucked up but HBA seems to have been self destructive even from him youth days. Something not right in that otherwise brilliant head of his. Ben Arfa is flawed, I don't think many would argue on that score. Forget tracking back, even going forward he has a tendency to hog the ball and that would see most top clubs steer clear. But we aren't a top club and some of the players starting ahead of him in a team which struggles to score goals aren't fit to be on the same pitch. That's the issue. The sad thing is, you can see that he's trying to fit in within Pardew's anti-football framework, and is trying to make things work out with a club for the first time in his life. This has been nothing but a complete waste of an opportunity for both sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 The strangest thing for me is that in theory Pardew's brand of football relies on individuals to produce magic on top of the conservative base he wants to create. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 The strangest thing for me is that in theory Pardew's brand of football relies on individuals to produce magic on top of the conservative base he wants to create. Aye but 11 defenders are better than 10 so fuck your individuality, it's all 'Atam's fault tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Unbelievable that Hatem's career here would be summarised in a little more than two threads. I can't see him ever fulfilling his real potential. That isn't taking away any blame from Pardew who royally fucked up but HBA seems to have been self destructive even from him youth days. Something not right in that otherwise brilliant head of his. Ben Arfa is flawed, I don't think many would argue on that score. Forget tracking back, even going forward he has a tendency to hog the ball and that would see most top clubs steer clear. But we aren't a top club and some of the players starting ahead of him in a team which struggles to score goals aren't fit to be on the same pitch. That's the issue. The sad thing is, you can see that he's trying to fit in within Pardew's anti-football framework, and is trying to make things work out with a club for the first time in his life. This has been nothing but a complete waste of an opportunity for both sides. I can't really think of a bigger waste of talent in all the time I've been watching sport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 The strangest thing for me is that in theory Pardew's brand of football relies on individuals to produce magic on top of the conservative base he wants to create. you seem to be suggesting there's little or no logic to the footballing framework laid out by alan scott pardew ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 The strangest thing for me is that in theory Pardew's brand of football relies on individuals to produce magic on top of the conservative base he wants to create. Ben Arfa plays too deep to be allowed any individuality. He really only wants the "magic" from a centre forward. Even in a 4-3-3, the two wide forwards are only there to hold the full back's hand for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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