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Asked whether Pardew loves him, the winger said: "No. But I respect him for that choice. I ramp up my training, I try to be a good team-mate. I know what I'm doing right now will make me play well. I'm working harder than ever. I'm always frustrated when I'm not playing but, instead of clashing with the coach like before, I let it go because I know I'll lose. I'm going to submit to his [Pardew's] authority. … I'm not going to go looking for a fight. My time will come. I have to be patient."

 

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I don't doubt that he's tried a different approach. Same as Joey Barton. But these things can run deep and it's not easy.

 

FWIW I think there's more involved here than whether or not he's having rows with his manager or his team-mates. His focus and concentration on the pitch is very off and on.

 

 

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Asked whether Pardew loves him, the winger said: "No. But I respect him for that choice. I ramp up my training, I try to be a good team-mate. I know what I'm doing right now will make me play well. I'm working harder than ever. I'm always frustrated when I'm not playing but, instead of clashing with the coach like before, I let it go because I know I'll lose. I'm going to submit to his [Pardew's] authority. … I'm not going to go looking for a fight. My time will come. I have to be patient."

 

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FWIW I think there's more involved here than whether or not he's having rows with his manager or his team-mates

There is, his manager is absolutely terrible.
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Does anyone reckon we'll be able to attract a talent like Ben Arfa again under this regime?  I highly doubt it.

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Asked whether Pardew loves him, the winger said: "No. But I respect him for that choice. I ramp up my training, I try to be a good team-mate. I know what I'm doing right now will make me play well. I'm working harder than ever. I'm always frustrated when I'm not playing but, instead of clashing with the coach like before, I let it go because I know I'll lose. I'm going to submit to his [Pardew's] authority. … I'm not going to go looking for a fight. My time will come. I have to be patient."

 

From that same article, but not posted for some reason...

 

I don't doubt that he's tried a different approach. Same as Joey Barton. But these things can run deep and it's not easy.

 

FWIW I think there's more involved here than whether or not he's having rows with his manager or his team-mates. His focus and concentration on the pitch is very off and on.

 

 

 

Nah, theres a complete lack of balance in regards to how Pardew has treated Ben Arfa. We went on a solid run without Ben Arfa, Gouffran & Sissoko were involved in goals & we won some good games. Creates a sense of competition, fair play.

 

His first start after that was against Stoke in a 5-1 win where he got an assist & played well. Since then he has played more than 45 minutes 4 times in 14 games man.  After stoke hes dropped for 2 games, hits the woodwork twice in a start against Cardiff & is then........dropped for 2 more games? Come on.

Whatever you make of Ben Arfas mentality, which may not be perfect. Pardew hasnt treated him well. Our most naturally talented player & he cant get a look in while we get thrashed each week & Dan Gosling gets starts. Its absolutely ludicrous :lol: thats how bizarre it is.

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The ridiculousness of this, when Hatem has played well, and created the chances the fat knacker reserve GK reckoned he wasn't doing in games, he's been dropped the next match.

 

Absolutely treated like shit, fuck Pardew for not knowing what a player the lad is.

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Dont think so, post & bar against Cardiff in the cup. In his next start against Norwich he nearly got a pen & got us a freekick we hit the bar with.

 

The only other two games hes played more than 45 mins since Stoke are Chelsea & Sunderland.

 

Then you take into account his assist for Cisse's match winner, to get dropped against Everton (Where he again set up a sitter for Anita)

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People moan about him losing the ball and that's why he's dropped and yet Tiote has lost it many more times in much more dangerous positions and he is never dropped. I'm not saying Tiote should be dropped btw but there is definitely some double-standard bullshit going on here.

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People moan about him losing the ball and that's why he's dropped and yet Tiote has lost it many more times in much more dangerous positions and he is never dropped. I'm not saying Tiote should be dropped btw but there is definitely some double-standard bullshit going on here.

 

Shola has made a career out of giving away possession yet still gets picked.  Gouffran looks like he's been wearing clown shoes for the last dozen games or so yet still gets picked.  Gosling gives away stupid free kicks and surrenders possession with each of them yet bizarrely manages to get picked.  Alan Smith was the worst passer of the ball I have ever seen in a Newcastle shirt, the simplest of passes would go straight to the opposition yet if his contract hadn't expired I'm sure he'd be getting picked by the fuckwit too.

 

The argument that he gives away possession is laughable bullshit.  The best players lose possession all the time as they try the hard things that lesser players can't even conceive of doing.  He doesn't tackle back, it's not really part of his game.  So fuck.  That's what defenders are for.  Ben Arfa is a creative, attacking player whose only job should be to attack the opposition and create opportunities. 

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People moan about him losing the ball and that's why he's dropped and yet Tiote has lost it many more times in much more dangerous positions and he is never dropped. I'm not saying Tiote should be dropped btw but there is definitely some double-standard bullshit going on here.

The "he loses the ball too much" argument really annoys me. If you watch Suarez in a game he loses the ball at least half the time he gets it yet he is the best player in the league by a distance

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Not losing the ball is crucial to Pardews keep it tight tactic as it run up and down like a headless chicken

 

Don't forget jump higher :lol:

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