sempuki Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Would give him a start on Wednesday and hope a few chances fall his way. No, he must be burned at the stake for he is 1000 times worse than Pat Heard and Shola combined, for the quixotic lords of Newcastle-Online have spoken... Think he needs to be left out for a few games myself. Did not exactly exert himself today and seems to have got complacent because he knows he is guaranteed to start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineBarrens Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Would give him a start on Wednesday and hope a few chances fall his way. No, he must be burned at the stake for he is 1000 times worse than Pat Heard and Shola combined, for the quixotic lords of Newcastle-Online have spoken... Think he needs to be left out for a few games myself. Did not exactly exert himself today and seems to have got complacent because he knows he is guaranteed to start. And that's fine, it's the posts accusing him of being a liability and a waste of a shirt and suchlike that are simply ridiculous. He's a good striker going through a lean period, it's not his fault that the club failed to bring in another striker (as well as Remy) during the summer to give him competition for his place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Would give him a start on Wednesday and hope a few chances fall his way. No, he must be burned at the stake for he is 1000 times worse than Pat Heard and Shola combined, for the quixotic lords of Newcastle-Online have spoken... Think he needs to be left out for a few games myself. Did not exactly exert himself today and seems to have got complacent because he knows he is guaranteed to start. And that's fine, it's the posts accusing him of being a liability and a waste of a shirt and suchlike that are simply ridiculous. He's a good striker going through a lean period, it's not his fault that the club failed to bring in another striker (as well as Remy) during the summer to give him competition for his place. The idea of Gouffran replacing him is absolutely hilarious. I like Gouffran but he's nowhere near the threat that Cisse is. Hull had their cigars out for the last ten minutes once our main striker was off the field. Absolutely incredible the amount of people for whom the solution to a player clearly out of form in a team who generally don't want to attack is "drop him" Any vaguely competent attacking manager who had Cisse in their squad would have the team set up in a way that would give him chances and therefore goals within a couple of matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 How about expecting a forward to actually, you know, contribute to our attacking play and create chances for himself and others, or is that concept too old fashioned? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Set the first goal up didn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Set the first goal up didn't he? Not sure if serious.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 He's a striker... Did he miss any chances?... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 No but he didn't put much effort in today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Set the first goal up didn't he? 'twas Moussa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 He's a striker... Did he miss any chances?... He's a forward... Did he hold the ball up effectively? Did he bring other players into play? Did he create chances for others? Did he move well enough to make it possible for others to play him in? Did he score? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 His assist aside he was fucking woeful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Set the first goal up didn't he? 'twas Moussa. Really? Pretty sure it was Cisse like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 It was Cisse but it was also his complete miss-hit that reached Remy to score Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Set the first goal up didn't he? 'twas Moussa. Really? Pretty sure it was Cisse like. My bad. App has it down as Sissoko. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Cisse had the shite volley that went to Remy, Sissoko whipped it in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineBarrens Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 He's a striker... Did he miss any chances?... He's a forward... Did he hold the ball up effectively? Did he bring other players into play? Did he create chances for others? Did he move well enough to make it possible for others to play him in? Did he score? Created more goal scoring opportunities today than any other NUFC player according to the stats. Did he have a good game? No. Should he be dropped? Possibly, if there were any decent striking options on the bench but there are not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 It was an "assist" only by the technical definition of the term. No way did he mean to play Remy in. It was a miss hit shot, which would have gone well wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 His assist aside he was fucking woeful. Not sure a mistimed shot can be regarded as a positive in any other way than that luck were on our side in terms of where it ended up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Absolutely toss today. Not only is he not scoring his mediocre link up play has turned to utter filth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 He's pretty detrimental, it was bad enough when he wasn't scoring but now it's like the other team have 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 It will be interesting to see how effective we are if he's dropped. He still occupies central defenders even when he's off form, I wonder if Remy will find as much space when the central defenders are marking him instead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Probably not, has Remy ever played uptop by himself? God bless not going bust > having options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 He's a striker... Did he miss any chances?... He's a forward... Did he hold the ball up effectively? Did he bring other players into play? Did he create chances for others? Did he move well enough to make it possible for others to play him in? Did he score? Created more goal scoring opportunities today than any other NUFC player according to the stats. Did he have a good game? No. Should he be dropped? Possibly, if there were any decent striking options on the bench but there are not. Which stats are those? I fully appreciate we lack options up front, and this is why I have said, and still think we must persist with him. That said, people have been saying all it would take to get Cisse firing on all cylinders was for Ba to fuck off, then to play him centrally as a lone forward, then to create more chances as a team. Now apparently all it takes is chances put on a plate for him. My mother could score chances if they're put on a plate. What we need is a striker who can contribute effectively to our attacking play as well as sticking the ball in the net on a consistent basis. Can Cisse do this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineBarrens Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 He's a striker... Did he miss any chances?... He's a forward... Did he hold the ball up effectively? Did he bring other players into play? Did he create chances for others? Did he move well enough to make it possible for others to play him in? Did he score? Created more goal scoring opportunities today than any other NUFC player according to the stats. Did he have a good game? No. Should he be dropped? Possibly, if there were any decent striking options on the bench but there are not. Which stats are those? I fully appreciate we lack options up front, and this is why I have said, and still think we must persist with him. That said, people have been saying all it would take to get Cisse firing on all cylinders was for Ba to f*** off, then to play him centrally as a lone forward, then to create more chances as a team. Now apparently all it takes is chances put on a plate for him. My mother could score chances if they're put on a plate. What we need is a striker who can contribute effectively to our attacking play as well as sticking the ball in the net on a consistent basis. Can Cisse do this? NUFC stats on twitter. Well he certainly can't play as a lone striker and appears to be most effective in a 4-3-3, as evidenced by his wondrous form from January-May 2012. So it's either drop him for an inferior striker in Shola or Gouffran or persist with him in a 4-3-3 formation. Another striker in January is essential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 He's been f*cking awful for ages.... in his position the CF needs to hold the ball and link play as well as make intelligent runs. Cisse does none of that and thus f*cking useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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