lovejoy Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I think he's terrible, personally. Scores goals, admittedly, and that's exactly what we need. I don't even know how he scores them. Kinda makes me think it's all fluke, hence why I don't like him. We could do with some luck though... This is basically how I feel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I was a massive defender of his but his appearances this season have been pointless. Mitrovic recently has been just as bad like so it's six and two threes really. The 2 beautiful bastards are heavily responsible in us being shit enough to sign Benitez though so I cannot really complain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I was a massive defender of his but his appearances this season have been pointless. Mitrovic recently has been just as bad like so it's six and two threes really. The 2 beautiful bastards are heavily responsible in us being shit enough to sign Benitez though so I cannot really complain. Cisse's been good in his few starts this season IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Other than his 1st game I'm strugling to remember him making a meaningful contribution, from memory he went on a run of games where he couldn't keep the ball, and then a couple where he looked OK without scoring before getting injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I think Cisse has to start if fit, he's a pure poacher, and now with the way we're playing we might see the ball in the box a bit more often. Why are all our strikers so bad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 36 goals in 82 games for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 2015 was a nightmare for him with the injuries and the gobbing and all that, but he might still have it in him. He scored five in Dec 2014, Pardew's last month. For the first time in ages, we have a manager who can make the right judgement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 36 goals in 82 games for us. Compares quite favourably with Mitro's 5 in 26. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 36 goals in 82 games for us. Compares quite favourably with Mitro's 5 in 26. Wikipedia (I know) has his PL record as 36 in 104. Exclude his stormer first half a season when he scored goals like a man possessed four years ago now and that goes down to 23 in 92, or exactly 1:4. It's better than Mitrovic, granted, but Cisse offers very little in general play, arguably less than Mitro who I rate just as little. There's not much in it really, and I think Doumbia would be approximately the same level but at least he offers pace. I would go with whomever appears to have the most confidence that they can get the goals we need and delivers the goods in training. If Cisse is happy, back to fitness and confident he could be that man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 shit enough to sign Benitez this stupid fucking club man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 36 goals in 82 games for us. Compares quite favourably with Mitro's 5 in 26. Wikipedia (I know) has his PL record as 36 in 104. Exclude his stormer first half a season when he scored goals like a man possessed four years ago now and that goes down to 23 in 92, or exactly 1:4. It's better than Mitrovic, granted, but Cisse offers very little in general play, arguably less than Mitro who I rate just as little. There's not much in it really, and I think Doumbia would be approximately the same level but at least he offers pace. I would go with whomever appears to have the most confidence that they can get the goals we need and delivers the goods in training. If Cisse is happy, back to fitness and confident he could be that man. You can't exclude his good run of goals to make his average look crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 You can when a good 4 month run is out of sync with the other 4 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 And when the last four years have been so average, which is the Cisse we are moet likely to see now if we play him rather than the one from over four years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 You can when a good 4 month run is out of sync with the other 4 years. But you can't though, he scored those goals, so you need to count them, doesn't matter if he has not hit those heights again or not. He is nowhere near the player he seemed then, but you can't just ignore the goals he scored when he looked great for us. Maybe we should not count the games he played and didn't score then, when Pardew played him out wide? Or all the other games he was left upfront on his own with no support or no service? You can't pick and choose parts of someone's playing history, to make a point. You have to count it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 When you're talking about his goal record from 4 years ago as a reason he should be playing, when he hasn't done it consistently ever since, I think you can. We're not going to see the Cisse that was banging them in from ridiculous angles all of a sudden when he hasn't for so long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 His goal record last season was decent tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 When you're talking about his goal record from 4 years ago as a reason he should be playing, when he hasn't done it consistently ever since, I think you can. We're not going to see the Cisse that was banging them in from ridiculous angles all of a sudden when he hasn't for so long. There's a better reason why he should be playing. Mitrovic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Jesu You can when a good 4 month run is out of sync with the other 4 years. But you can't though, he scored those goals, so you need to count them, doesn't matter if he has not hit those heights again or not. He is nowhere near the player he seemed then, but you can't just ignore the goals he scored when he looked great for us. Maybe we should not count the games he played and didn't score then, when Pardew played him out wide? Or all the other games he was left upfront on his own with no support or no service? You can't pick and choose parts of someone's playing history, to make a point. You have to count it all. Fucking hell forgot about that when pardew played him out wide. That was mental after one game you could tell he would be brutual out there. But he kept playing him out there anyways....good awl pards! He never looked the same player since Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 At the beginning of this season when a lot of people wanted us to flog Cisse after buying Mitrovic, I said back then that I would rather he still be here as I wouldn't want to be relying on Mitro or Perez to score the goals no matter how good their play is outside the box. Well, here we are, both of them contributing to our all round play, except in the penalty area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 At the beginning of this season when a lot of people wanted us to flog Cisse after buying Mitrovic, I said back then that I would rather he still be here as I wouldn't want to be relying on Mitro or Perez to score the goals no matter how good their play is outside the box. Well, here we are, both of them contributing to our all round play, except in the penalty area. Stop patting yourself on the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I said the same as TRon like, but Cisse has been fucking fucking shite. And other than the last 2 games Mitrovic has generally more than most to our all round play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 You'd have to be pretty daft to have wanted rid of Cisse at the start of the season, like. He got 1 in 2 last season with the shittest service known to man. Effectively keeping us in the league, again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Is he fit Sunday or something? Why all the bumping??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I said the same as TRon like, but Cisse has been fucking fucking shite. And other than the last 2 games Mitrovic has generally more than most to our all round play. Even if he's absolute shite now (I'll take your word for it) I can guarantee you if we got a decent cross in he'd be far more likely to be on the end of it than any of our other 'strikers'. Riviere? Oh yeah forgot about him, I take it back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 At the beginning of this season when a lot of people wanted us to flog Cisse after buying Mitrovic, I said back then that I would rather he still be here as I wouldn't want to be relying on Mitro or Perez to score the goals no matter how good their play is outside the box. Well, here we are, both of them contributing to our all round play, except in the penalty area. you had this conversation with me I believe, and yes, you were right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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